Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-08-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > If we were starting from scratch, I agree, but I'm not sure how to > phrase that. > > Here's what I currently have, which has one second from Julien and > previous seconds from Manoj and Raphaël for previous versions of the > wording. I'd welcome any additional proposals f

Re: Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-07-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, Jul 04 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert writes: > >> I think the cost of moving window managers out of /etc/X11 far >> outweight the benefit. However the same rationale about moving >> programs out of /usr/bin/X11, /usr/lib/X11, etc. apply here. If one >> day we move to X12, /et

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-07-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > I think the cost of moving window managers out of /etc/X11 far > outweight the benefit. However the same rationale about moving > programs out of /usr/bin/X11, /usr/lib/X11, etc. apply here. If one > day we move to X12, /etc/X11 will probably have to go. > > I do not thin

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 09:43:57AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert writes: > > > My comment would be that we should avoid implying that putting window > > managers config file in /etc/X11/.../ is a good idea... But of course > > it is not the time for policy to forbid it either. > >

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > My comment would be that we should avoid implying that putting window > managers config file in /etc/X11/.../ is a good idea... But of course > it is not the time for policy to forbid it either. Hm. Do you feel that way just for new window managers, or that ones that cu

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:07:35PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Bernhard R. Link" writes: > > * Russ Allbery [090620 23:55]: > > >> I'm not sure either. This was already in Policy prior to this round > >> of changes, of course, but maybe since we're revising this section > >> anyway, this is t

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 23:54:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > > Ping Russ? :) > > Sorry about the long delay on the rewrite of the X installation > directory section. Here's proposed rewording for the whole section. > How does this look to everyone? > Seconded, alon

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-21 Thread Russ Allbery
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > * Russ Allbery [090620 23:55]: >> I'm not sure either. This was already in Policy prior to this round >> of changes, of course, but maybe since we're revising this section >> anyway, this is the time to remove it. To remove it, I'd drop the >> should and turn it in

Re: Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-21 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Russ Allbery [090620 23:55]: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> + Configuration files for window managers and display managers > >> + should be placed in a subdirectory of /etc/X11/ > >> + corresponding to the package name due to these

Re: Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-21 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Bernhard R. Link [090621 16:10]: > > Configuration files for window managers and display managers > > may be placed in a subdirectory of /etc/X11/ > > corresponding to the package name. Other X Window System > > applications should use the /etc/ d

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: >> +Configuration files for window managers and display managers >> +should be placed in a subdirectory of /etc/X11/ >> +corresponding to the package name due to these programs' tight >> +integratio

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > + Configuration files for window managers and display managers > + should be placed in a subdirectory of /etc/X11/ > + corresponding to the package name due to these programs' tight > + integration with the mechanisms of the

Re: Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, Jun 20 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sorry about the long delay on the rewrite of the X installation > directory section. Here's proposed rewording for the whole section. > How does this look to everyone? I was wondering if is it OK not to have a transition period for this change,

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-06-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > Ping Russ? :) Sorry about the long delay on the rewrite of the X installation directory section. Here's proposed rewording for the whole section. How does this look to everyone? diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 43cf4d6..f0e2c6e 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: >> how about: >> >>The installation of files into subdirectories of >>/usr/X11R6/is now prohibited. Include files >>should be installed into /usr/include/X11/. For >>f

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > how about: > > The installation of files into subdirectories of > /usr/X11R6/is now prohibited. Include files > should be installed into /usr/include/X11/. For > files that previously would

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 05:08:38 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > how about: > > The installation of files into subdirectories of > /usr/X11R6/is now prohibited. Include files Missing space before the “is”. > should be installed into /usr/include/X11/. For >

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 19:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I was about to apply this, but then realized that it leaves the following, > which seems a bit odd and self-contradictory: > > > The installation of files into subdirectories > of /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ an

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to > X11R6. Opinions? > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 300d7f7..5cd463e 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -8619,22 +8619,8 @@ name ["syshostname"]: > >

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-06 Thread Julien Danjou
At 1238611430 time_t, Julien Cristau wrote: > I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to > X11R6. Opinions? Seconded. Cheers, -- Julien Danjou .''`. Debian Developer : :' : http://julien.danjou.info `. `' http://people.debian.org/~acid `- 9A0D 5FD9 EB42 22F6

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:52:25AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > > I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to > > X11R6. Opinions? > > Let's leave the explicit prohibition on X11R6 for at least one more > release. imake used to be really

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to > X11R6. Opinions? Let's leave the explicit prohibition on X11R6 for at least one more release. imake used to be really common and one still occasionally runs into software that expects this sort

Bug#522217: debian-policy: Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-common

2009-04-01 Thread Julien Cristau
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: normal Tags: patch I don't know whether to remove just this part, or everything relating to X11R6. Opinions? Cheers, Julien From: Julien Cristau Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:29:23 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/3] Drop requirement to pre-depend on x11-com