Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-06-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Here is an updated patch for stating that the Debian archive doesn't >> support listing multiple distributions in the *.changes file. This >> reduces the footnote of distributions to just a couple of examples >> and defers to

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is an updated patch for stating that the Debian archive doesn't > support listing multiple distributions in the *.changes file. This > reduces the footnote of distributions to just a couple of examples and > defers to the devref for everything else.

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-06-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Sat, Jun 20 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 43cf4d6..528c4b9 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -3118,76 +3118,39 @@ Package: libc6 > distribution(s) where this version of the package should > be installed. Va

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-06-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Here is an updated patch for stating that the Debian archive doesn't support listing multiple distributions in the *.changes file. This reduces the footnote of distributions to just a couple of examples and defers to the devref for everything else. If this looks like the right approach, I'm looki

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Colin Watson writes ("Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions"): > The mythical dpkg programmer's manual? :-) The current policy manual was of course made by merging what I called the dpkg programmers' manual and what I called the policy manu

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 22:59 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > As far as I know, the archive maps uploads to testing to > testing-proposed-updates, and so both end up in t-p-u. That's correct. The s-p-u and t-p-u uploads I've made for devscripts all had either "stable" or "testing" in the changelog. Ad

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Kurt Roeckx writes: > As far as I know, the archive maps uploads to testing to > testing-proposed-updates, and so both end up in t-p-u. Yeah, but t-p-u is the recommended method, IIRC. > There is also testing-security, which first gets uploaded to > security-master.debian.org and then also gets

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:19:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I now have: > > + The testing distribution normally receives > + its packages via the unstable distribution > + after a short time lag. However sometimes, such as > +

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 12:19 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I now have: > > + The testing distribution normally receives > + its packages via the unstable distribution > + after a short time lag. However sometimes, such as > + d

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Russ Allbery
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > That section sounds slightly strange to me. It starts by saying that > one cannot upload directly to testing, and finishes by indicating that a > distribution of t-p-u is used to upload directly to testing. > > Maybe something like > > + before the uns

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 19:20 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here's a proposed patch that limits the footnote to only discussing the > values that go into *.changes files, removes extraneous information about > the relative risk of unstable vs. testing, and mentions the other values > commonly seen in

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 19:35 +, Mark Hymers wrote: > In gmane.linux.debian.devel.policy, you wrote: > > I think it's worth mentioning in the policy footnote that the Debian > > archive doesn't (well, won't, to be entirely accurate) support the > > feature and removing the suggestion that there i

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > It depends, and there can be some repetition when needed to ease the > comprehension. But you don't need to know the .changes syntax to create > policy conformant packages, you just have to know how to call > dpgk-genchanges and what to put in debian/files and debian/cha

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Colin Watson writes: > However, I'm not convinced that it is correct to remove this feature > from the *syntax*. While Ubuntu's archive maintenance software doesn't > support it right now, several people have requested it > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/235064). If you're maintaining > p

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > Agreed. > > In the long term, I would like to move all the documentation about the > syntax into dpkg itself and have the policy document how Debian uses > dpkg rather than documenting dpkg itself. > > It's already in our TODO list to document the format of .dsc, .change

Re: Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Hymers
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.policy, you wrote: > I think it's worth mentioning in the policy footnote that the Debian > archive doesn't (well, won't, to be entirely accurate) support the > feature and removing the suggestion that there is a "frozen" > distribution. As such, I'd be quite happy with

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 19:11 +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > I agree that dak not currently supporting multiple-distribution upload > is not a reason to change policy about the format of the .changes files, > since this is well supported by dpkg and other tools and can be useful > with other upload q

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 08:22:45PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Adam D. Barratt" writes: > > > The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files > > specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of > > distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the fe

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Colin Watson wrote: > > In the long term, I would like to move all the documentation about the > > syntax into dpkg itself and have the policy document how Debian uses > > dpkg rather than documenting dpkg itself. > > The mythical dpkg programmer's manual? :-) We do have quit

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 03:21:28PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Colin Watson wrote: > > However, I'm not convinced that it is correct to remove this feature > > from the *syntax*. While Ubuntu's archive maintenance software doesn't > > support it right now, several people ha

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Adam D. Barratt [090211 22:30]: > The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files > specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of > distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the feature has been > deprecated since the "testing" distribution beca

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Colin Watson wrote: > However, I'm not convinced that it is correct to remove this feature > from the *syntax*. While Ubuntu's archive maintenance software doesn't > support it right now, several people have requested it > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/235064). If you'

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 09:27:17PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files > specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of > distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the feature has been > deprecated since t

Re: Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Hymers
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.policy, you wrote: > I think we should move distribution field from upload target to a > "final target" distribution, i.e. a sort of quality assessment. > I really don't like that maintainers fill a RC bug only to stop > migrating a package from stable to testing.

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Russ Allbery wrote: "Adam D. Barratt" writes: The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the feature has been deprecated since the "testing" distribut

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-11 Thread Russ Allbery
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files > specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of > distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the feature has been > deprecated since the "testing" distribution became an o

Bug#514919: Removing support for uploads to multiple distributions

2009-02-11 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: wishlist Hi, The Policy section detailing the "Distribution" field in .changes files specifies that the field may contain a space-separated list of distributions. Whilst this is technically accurate, the feature has been deprecated since the "test