Re: Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 01:18:42PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 12, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to say the target should be > > "patched", rather than "source". For reference, the proposal as it now > > reads follows; as always, I'm looking for secon

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 04:00:17PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > >>Hi, Hi [...] > Anyway. Thanks to your excellent research in > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in this bug (and your reminder on IRC > that you did this :-), we know tha

Re: Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 01:18:42PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 12, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to say the target should be > > "patched", rather than "source". For reference, the proposal as it now > > reads follows; as always, I'm looking for secon

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > There are essentially two ways to use patch systems like dpatch: In > debian/rules have 'clean' depend on 'unpatch' or on 'patch'. While the > standard way is to depend on 'unpatch', if you make it depends on > 'patch', then all pat

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:56:25PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > > I would like to make one comment: > > > > There are essentially two ways to use patch systems like dpatch: In > > debian/rules have 'clean' depend on 'unpatch' or on 'patch'. While the > > standard way is to depend on 'u

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > I would like to make one comment: > > There are essentially two ways to use patch systems like dpatch: In > debian/rules have 'clean' depend on 'unpatch' or on 'patch'. While the > standard way is to depend on 'unpatch', if you make it depends on > 'patch', then all patches are applied by

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:24:04AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > + > + If, even after this warning, a maintainer still chooses to > + do so by either creating the layout of the source package > + such that running dpkg-source -x does not > + render editable source, or

Re: Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 12, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to say the target should be > "patched", rather than "source". For reference, the proposal as it now > reads follows; as always, I'm looking for seconds. I object. If the standard "patched" target exists then README.source

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 04:00:17PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > > That being said, a recent post on -devel by Lars Wirzenius[1] made me > > realize that this problem is about more than (c)dbs; thus, I've changed > > the concept to make it broader. > > > > I'm hereby rescinding all previ

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-06-12 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > That being said, a recent post on -devel by Lars Wirzenius[1] made me > realize that this problem is about more than (c)dbs; thus, I've changed > the concept to make it broader. > > I'm hereby rescinding all previous proposals I made on #250202, to > replace them with the following: Your p

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> dbs, one of the larger contributors to this particular packaging style, >> uses "setup", so if "setup" was used all the dbs packages at least >> would immediately satisfy the should. > Y

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >> True. What I'm looking for is something unique; so 'source' is clearly > >> right out. Perhaps 'edit' could be better, or 'fin

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> True. What I'm looking for is something unique; so 'source' is clearly >> right out. Perhaps 'edit' could be better, or 'finish'. Suggestions are >> most certainly welcome. > 'prepare' ? dbs, on

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > Don't know why, this must be way before my time in Debian... > > It would be good to check for the amount of packages affected by that > > nevertheless. > > True. What I'm

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > + In ad

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050426 15:10]: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > > + source to the debian/rules file. This >

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > > + source to the debian/rules f

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Both cases where I used 'must' do not make packages instantly buggy, > > since they only apply to the 'source' target (that is the idea, at > > least; if the wor

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I'm hereby rescinding all previous proposals I made on #250202, to > replace them with the following: > > --- policy.sgml.orig 2005-04-26 11:02:02.0 +0200 > +++ policy.sgml 2005-04-26 11:28:10.0 +0200 > (...)

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > + source to the debian/rules file. This > > + target, if present, should unpack source archives

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > + source to the debian/rules file. This > + target, if present, should unpack source archives, apply > + patches, generate files, and generally prepare the

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, There have been two suggestions to fix this issue: * Mandate common names for debian/rules targets, * Use a debian/README.source to document used debian/rules targets. At first sight, these seem to be conflicting, especially if one considers Bill's objection to suggesting names. However, as I