Re: Bug#545081: dpkg-dev: dpkg-buildpackage -B should UNCONDITIONALLY invoke debian/rules build-arch

2009-09-04 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > forcemerge 229357 545081 > thanks > > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009, Zack Weinberg wrote: >> As is well known, dpkg-buildpackage -B does not know whether it can > > If you knew well, you would have known that this bug already

Bug#545081: dpkg-dev: dpkg-buildpackage -B should UNCONDITIONALLY invoke debian/rules build-arch

2009-09-04 Thread Zack Weinberg
Package: dpkg-dev Version: 1.15.3.1 Severity: wishlist As is well known, dpkg-buildpackage -B does not know whether it can safely use the 'build-arch' target to debian/rules, so it always uses 'build', which makes the Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep distinction useless unless you bend the rules

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy (was: First draft of review of policy must usage)

2006-11-06 Thread Zack Weinberg
I'd like to see this say something about what may be assumed of the standard shell utilities, as well as the shell itself, and in particular I'd like to see coreutils bug #339085 addressed [please see the bug log for my personal very strong opinion on which way it should be addressed]. zw -- To

Re: Bug#167425: debian-policy: package should not depend on fileutils

2002-11-04 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:16:57AM -0900, Britton wrote: > > So how does the reference to the now-nonexistent fileutils package ever go > away? As I understand it, it can be taken out after sarge is released. zw

Bug#167425: debian-policy: package should not depend on fileutils

2002-11-02 Thread Zack Weinberg
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.7.1 Severity: normal Tags: sid The debian-policy package has this control line: Depends: fileutils (>=3D 4.0) In sid, fileutils has been subsumed into the coreutils package. Since a versioned dependency is not satisfied by a Provides:, having debian-policy ins

Bug#39830: please clarify

2002-09-21 Thread Zack Weinberg
This proposal has been marked [rejected] for no reason apparent in the bug log. Please explain. zw

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:24:26PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 01:05:12PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > > So a situation where we have absolutely no idea if and what POSIX > > > specifies about something should be quite rare, and I'd be sat

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:21:55PM +0200, Patrik Hagglund wrote: > Zack Weinberg wrote: > > This misses the point. The phrase being quoted here is _not_ from > > 1003.2-1992, it's from the XPG/4 webpage describing the shell. It may > > also be in 1003.2-1992 but can an

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:14:59PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > Zack Weinberg schrieb: > > > Further, "identical behaviour" seems a bit strict and hard to > > > prove to me, OTOH I don't know POSIX well, thus I have no idea > > > what this would app

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
> > I will reiterate, however, that the issue from my point of view is > > that the standard is not specific at all, and even where it is, it is > > not readily available, so how does anyone know what it specifies? > > First thing, in all your proposals is the sentence that says that POSIX is > ve

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:03:04PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > Hi > > Zack Weinberg schrieb: > > I apologize for the long delay in responding, I was sick. > > Bless you. Thank you. > > The POSIX standard for shells leaves important areas > > unspecifie

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:25:33AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 21-May-01, 05:22 (CDT), Patrik Hagglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see what you mean by "the initial value of the IFS > > variable". Is there anything that is unspecified for field > > splitting in IEEE Std. 1003.2-1

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 04:43:11AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 09:13:31PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > I'd like to tighten this up a bit by requiring that /bin/sh adhere to > > the consensus of implementations, where POSIX leaves things >

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-28 Thread Zack Weinberg
I apologize for the long delay in responding, I was sick. On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 08:23:44PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > > Can we change the last sentence in: > > > ! The standard shell interpreter `/bin/sh' is a > > ! symbolic link to a POSIX compatible shell. Since the POSIX > > !

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-20 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 11:36:04AM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote: > Zack Weinberg schrieb: > > > > ! The standard shell interpreter `/bin/sh' is a > > ! symbolic link to a POSIX compatible shell. Since the POSIX > > ! standard for shells le

Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-05-19 Thread Zack Weinberg
Currently the only requirements on the shell interpreter /bin/sh are that it should adhere to the relevant POSIX standard, and that "echo -n" should not produce a newline. Unfortunately, POSIX leaves a large number of shell features unspecified. In most of these cases there is general agreement a

Re: utmp group proposal

1999-05-15 Thread Zack Weinberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) wrote: >Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>Joel Klecker wrote: >>>The main problem is that 2.0 kernels do not support sigaltstack(), >>>this causes such things as m4 to fail when run on a Linux 2.0 syst

Re: utmp group proposal

1999-05-12 Thread Zack Weinberg
Joel Klecker wrote: >At 19:15 -0400 1999-05-09, Michael Stone wrote: >>On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 04:03:01PM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: >>> Because it requires glibc 2.1 and kernel 2.2. >> >>Which reminds me, we should probably make it clear that 2.0 kernels will >>not work properly with potato if we do