Re: cleaning up our task packages

2000-12-07 Thread Rando Christensen
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001206 21:30]: > > Task packages are packages whose names are prefixed with `task-'. > > Typically they are empty metapackages that merely depend on a collection > > of other packages. > > Joey, nice work; I agree wit

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-03 Thread Rando Christensen
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Chris Waters wrote: > Heck, I just duplicated Manoj's feat of downloading the 'ls' binary > from the FSF's own site at ftp.gnu.org, and I can't help but notice > that not only does the binary not contain the GPL (I ran strings to > check), but there isn't even a copy of the GPL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Brian Mays wrote: > > But what if someone (named Fred) downloads our package and makes an RPM > out of it (using alien) and gives it to his friend (named Bob, who knows > nothing about Debian) and is hit by a car and dies. Oh my god! Bob would > then be left without knowle

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On 1 Dec 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Rando" == Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rando> The problem with that is, an aliened .deb has been received > Rando> from us, > > This statement is not correct. The Debian proj

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Brian Mays wrote: > > The problem with that is, an aliened .deb has been received from > > us, thus counting as us distributing it. And the aliened .deb (and > > the resulting .rpm/slack .tgz) would not contain the gpl in this > > circumstance, which makes us be violating the g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On 1 Dec 2000, Ketil Malde wrote: > > Do we really need to actuall include the GPL in every .deb containing > GPL code? Just because there's a server where the .debs can be > downloaded by themselves? Does this also extend to a server with > source tree - e.g. since I can make a copy of a singl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On 1 Dec 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Rando" == Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rando> Unfortunately, the Argument posed by RMS, apparently, is that > Rando> it needs to be INCLUDED with all packages, no matter what > R

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Rando Christensen
On 1 Dec 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Overdose of my name follows: ;) > >>"Rando" == Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rando> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Brian Mays wrote: > >> Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On 1 Dec 2000, Brian May wrote: > IMHO, Some people seem to be confusing two issues: > > 1. is it legal to use a package with other operating systems? YES. > 2. does Debian support using packages with other operating systems? NO. > > The fact that the license says packages can be used anywhere is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Brian Mays wrote: > Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, so what's the problem with all gpl'd packages Depending on a > > > package called 'license-gpl' ? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:55:39PM -0700, Rando Christensen wrote: > > That way, even dpkg would warn on a --install that license-gpl was > > suppossed to be installed as well, which counts, IMO, as accompanying all > > gpl'd pr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Chris Lawrence wrote: > I have an idea: we hack gzip to automatically decompress a particular > coding sequence to the text of the GPL. Then all we have to do is > force people to use our hacked gzip (screw up the magic in our header) > and we don't have to use any additional

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
Okay, so what's the problem with all gpl'd packages Depending on a package called 'license-gpl' ? That way, even dpkg would warn on a --install that license-gpl was suppossed to be installed as well, which counts, IMO, as accompanying all gpl'd programs with the GPL itself. It's horribly ugly as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Rando Christensen wrote: > look a little harder: > > xanielle:/bin% strings ls > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR > PURPOSE. > Not

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Brian Frederick Kimball wrote: > At 09:35 pm -0800 on November 29, 2000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ strings /bin/ls | egrep -i gpl\|license > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > /bin/ls does not contain a "notice placed by the copyright holder > saying it may be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001129 21:27]: > > What I would most like to see myself is adding a /etc/licensing/ > > directory in which every license used on the system can esist, for > > example: > > > &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Rando Christensen
On 29 Nov 2000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Rando Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What does everyone think? Is this too farfetched of a plan, or is it a > > Good Idea? > > It's not a horrid idea, but it doesn't solve the problem, which is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-29 Thread Rando Christensen
IMO, no matter WHAT way it's implememented, there is a strong issue here, and it could be implemented WAY past the GPL, to other licenses as well. What I would most like to see myself is adding a /etc/licensing/ directory in which every license used on the system can esist, for example: /etc/lic