Re: Proposal for next steps for systemd-related policy

2020-01-02 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, I broadly agree with what you said. Russ Allbery writes: > 2. Do nothing further before January 6th. It's still the holidays, and >subsequent steps are going to require some discussion, and I think it's >worth taking a breath. This, particularly. >My thought process here is t

Bug#765499: Patch to make policy document 32-bit uids

2015-01-22 Thread Matthew Vernon
tags 765499 +patch quit Hi, Here's a patch to document the 32-bit nature of UIDs, in line with Ben's suggestion (which seems sound to me). I've added a note to the effect that useradd won't use the higher-numbered UIDs, which seems sensible as a) that requires no changes to useradd b) there are s

Re: Bug#765499: Policy still thinks UIDs are 32-bit

2015-01-14 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Ben Harris writes: > Policy 9.2.2 lists ranges of UIDs and GIDs and what they're used for > in Debian. However, it limits itself to UIDs and GIDs below 65536. > As far as I can tell, on a modern Debian GNU/Linux i386 system UIDs > and GIDs are unsigned 32-bit integers. In consequence, Poli

only release packages that have maintainers?

2001-02-20 Thread Matthew Vernon
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry writes: > Anyone have comments on the idea that the only packages we should release are > ones that have a maintainer, not Debian QA? How about asking the QA team? I think that "packages maintained by the QA team" is a poor criterion for getting software. They shouldn't delay

Re: Bug#59403: [PROPOSED] restrictions on content of /usr/share/doc

2000-03-02 Thread Matthew Vernon
> This requires dpkg changes, and doesn't seem like it's particularly No it doesn't - currently I could make /usr/share/doc point at /dev/null, and dpkg wouldn't mind. Problem is, some packages look at files stored in /usr/share/doc, and so would break. Matthew -- "At least you know where you

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Walther writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > So what will it take to get the FHS ammended to add libexec in? It > seems like a major oversight. Why? Please justify this. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a padd

Re: Custom undocumented(7)s are just as bad.

2000-01-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jonathan Walther writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > I think its time we created /usr/libexec as all real Unixes do instead of > an endless succession of /usr/lib/program-foo directories. Why? Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd

Bug#55730: PROPOSED] Changes in handling library dependencies

2000-01-20 Thread Matthew Vernon
Wichert Akkerman writes: > In woody dpkg will use a different method to determine on which > libraries a package should depend. Until now dpkg-shlibdeps has > used the output of ldd to determine which libraries are needed. > This will be changed to using objdump. This however changes > will n

Re: Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-19 Thread Matthew Vernon
Wichert Akkerman writes: > Previously Matthew Vernon wrote: > > I think also the principle of only rejecting uploads with RC bugs in > > is important (ignoring the flamefests elsewhere about whether or not > > you think maintainers should spend their lives dotting all t

Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-19 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, I support this proposal in principle; the (relatively) undocumented feature in lintian means some of the details need changing a little, so I shall modify it a little. > However, clearly we can't expect the FTP archive maintainers to > personally decide whether each error or bug is

Bug#54985: debian-policy: handling of shared libraries

2000-01-19 Thread Matthew Vernon
Brian May writes: > > "Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ian> However, with the current arrangement I can't do that. > Ian> Whenever I want to upgrade a binary package I have to update > Ian> the libraries that it depends on to at least as recent a > Ia

Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-19 Thread Matthew Vernon
Richard Braakman writes: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 12:05:22PM +0000, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > > FWIW, a package that I uploaded was rejected, with a comment "using > > lintian would have pointed this out"; when I replied that in fact the > > "error&quo

Re: policy summary (new packages without man pages)

2000-01-18 Thread Matthew Vernon
Richard Braakman writes: > Indeed. Consider, though, that writing a small manpage that points > at existing documentation is not onerous. It is about as hard as > figuring out how to create a menu entry. I think it's part of the > packaging process. It's tricky to write a decent manpage if

Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Joey Hess writes: > > > b) Lintian already has a local exception mechanism, which was announced > > > to > > >debian-devel-announce recently. > > I've not seen that announcement, and I've been looking for such > > announcements. > > > > What was the

Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Joey Hess writes: > Raul Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 08:42:53PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > > Raul, I hope you're aware that > > > > > > a) Ian's assumption that dinstall rejects packages with lintian errors is > > >false. > > > > I was not aware of that. > > Beleive

Re: Bug#54985: debian-policy: handling of shared libraries

2000-01-14 Thread Matthew Vernon
Roman Hodek writes: > > > debhelper only affects the .deb file, and it should produce correct > > .debs regardless of version. "mybe some compilers etc." seems like > > FUD to me. > > Wrong. Take as example that the potato debhelper installs docs into > /usr/share/doc, and the stable one t

Bug#54985: debian-policy: handling of shared libraries

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Vernon
Roland Rosenfeld writes: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > > Summary: -dev packages should actually provide a real libfoo.so, > > rather than a symlink to the shared object provided by the runtime > > package. > > Which means, that everybod

Bug#54985: debian-policy: handling of shared libraries

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Vernon
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.1.1.1 Severity: normal Hi all, Summary: -dev packages should actually provide a real libfoo.so, rather than a symlink to the shared object provided by the runtime package. The object of this proposal is to divorce the version of the -dev package from the version

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-11 Thread Matthew Vernon
Greg Stark writes: > > Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You have a cost in being non-standard, and I don't think it is worth it > > this time. What benefits would give us what you propose? > > The cost is greater than /etc/mailname or /etc/papersize ? > > Debian lo

Re: policy summary

2000-01-10 Thread Matthew Vernon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What we could do (and I'll be happy to assist) is write some skeleton > manpages pointing to /usr/share/info/, > /usr/share/doc//html, etc. This seems an excellent idea to me. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd bro

Re: policy summary

2000-01-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Chris Waters writes: > Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think the problem is really that lintian is too picky about lack > > of man pages. At least, it's impossible to get a package by lintian > > without setting undocumented links for every binary without a man > > page, which

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Nicolás Lichtmaier writes: > > I think your ideas may be suitable for wishlist bugs against packages > > that don't do what you want, but it shouldn't go into policy. > > No. The maintainers could close the wishlist without doing anything. I think that they would only do so if they have a

Re: policy summary

2000-01-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
Chris Waters writes: > We have a *serious* problem here, IMO, and, while this proposal may > not be the best solution, we *need* a solution. I'd like to hear some > alternative proposals if this one is to be discarded. > (cc'd to the most recent objectors in the probably vain hope that > th

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-09 Thread Matthew Vernon
> This is already standard, but I think it should be into policy because I > already saw some programs deviating from this expected behaviour. I'm not aware of netscrape doing this, for example. And it's better to use /etc/lynx.conf to make lynx do it too, as it prevents lusers forgetting to co

Re: Suggestion to and how to alow different compression for .debs

1999-10-27 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ben Collins writes: > With the current implementation I have, it is a simple matter of adding a > line for each (de)compressor wanted. I think we should choose carefully > what compressions we allow, as it could lead to problems if we don't. For > this reason, we should not allow arbitrary com