Bug#299927: debtags future unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 01:24:52PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > control: tags -1 +moreinfo > control: affects -1 debtags > thanks > > hi, > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20221019132043.d4c4liyt6s6qe...@enricozini.org > and > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/bb7064071ebd838a9e045a1

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to starto

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 06:39:08PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > Note that the TC declining to rule on an issue does not override the policy > group right to make > a determination on that issue. So we are back to the situation before the > referral to the TC. do you think #801065 should be as

Bug#801065: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 06:13:32PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > not only based on that, but way more importantly that this would change > > *years* of existing practice. > Could you clarify which 'existing practices' ? how Debian packages behaved in the last decades. -- cheers, Hol

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to starto

2023-02-08 Thread Bill Allombert
O#n Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 04:47:37PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > retitle -1 turn #904558 into advice - how postinst should deal with failures > thanks > > On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 09:26:58AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > > The TC bug is 904558. > > thank you very much for this pointer, that's a pre

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2023-02-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > retitle 801065 turn #904558 into advice - how postinst should deal with > failures Bug #801065 [developers-reference] Section 6.4 - discourage failing install or upgrade when service fails to start Changed Bug title to 'turn #904558 into advice

Bug#801065: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 03:54:22PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > hi, > > btw, as pointed out on irc: I ment consensus, not consent. :) > > On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 10:36:02AM -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: > > > I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm tagging it > > > moreinfo. >

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to start

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
retitle -1 turn #904558 into advice - how postinst should deal with failures thanks On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 09:26:58AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > The TC bug is 904558. thank you very much for this pointer, that's a pretty good discussion, which resulted in - So, the

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to start

2023-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
The TC bug is 904558. Busy with day job now.

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to start

2023-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Holger" == Holger Levsen writes: Holger> I do agree with that. I'm more against a general Holger> recommendation, depending on the circumstances, it's the Holger> right thing to do. My recollection is this came before the TC, but I'm blanking on the bug number. But it seems li

Bug#801065: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, btw, as pointed out on irc: I ment consensus, not consent. :) On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 10:36:02AM -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: > > I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm tagging it > > moreinfo. > > > > I'm also wondering whether to mark this bug as wontfix (until there is

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to start

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 08:39:36AM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Holger" == Holger Levsen writes: > Holger> I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm > Holger> tagging it moreinfo. > My reading of the TC and debian-devel discussion was that this was at > least a reas

Bug#801065: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Marvin Renich
* Holger Levsen [230208 08:15]: > control: tags -1 +moreinfo > thanks > > hi, > > I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm tagging it > moreinfo. > > I'm also wondering whether to mark this bug as wontfix (until there is > consent) or to reassign to debian-policy or simply to

Bug#801065: Documenting how to not fail postinst on service fails to start

2023-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Holger" == Holger Levsen writes: Holger> I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm Holger> tagging it moreinfo. My reading of the TC and debian-devel discussion was that this was at least a reasonable thing for maintainers to do, and whether it should be done dep

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Processed: debtags future unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 +moreinfo Bug #299927 [developers-reference] developers-reference: Please add info about tagging packages with debtags Bug #339557 [developers-reference] devref: Please mention debtags as a best practice Added tag(s) moreinfo. Added tag(s) moreinfo. > affec

Bug#299927: debtags future unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
control: tags -1 +moreinfo control: affects -1 debtags thanks hi, https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20221019132043.d4c4liyt6s6qe...@enricozini.org and https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/bb7064071ebd838a9e045a1916bba49a9b960d80.ca...@debian.org indicate that debtags.debian.org might be shut

Bug#829611: updated url

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, annex.debconf.org is gone, the slides are at https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/share/debconf16/-/raw/master/slides/13-we-need-you-to-release-debian.pdf -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B0

Processed: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 +moreinfo Bug #801065 [developers-reference] Section 6.4 - discourage failing install or upgrade when service fails to start Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 801065: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801065 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...

Bug#801065: consent unclear

2023-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
control: tags -1 +moreinfo thanks hi, I don't think there has been consent on the issue, thus I'm tagging it moreinfo. I'm also wondering whether to mark this bug as wontfix (until there is consent) or to reassign to debian-policy or simply to close it. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁