Bug#479080: debian-policy: Policy '3.8 Essential packages' does not explain when/why essential is neccessary

2008-06-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:40:04 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 06:25:14PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >>> Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:45:30 +0200, Carl Fürstenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Bug#479080: debian-policy: Policy '3.8 Essential packages' does not explain when/why essential is neccessary

2008-06-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:38:15 +0200, Bernhard R Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080605 19:04]: >> This is not part of the rationale for a package's inclusion in >> Essential, it's an effect of a package's inclusion in Essential. >> >> Packages should only be

Bug#253511: reassign to developers-reference (Rejected: Bug#253511)

2008-06-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
reopen 253511 reassign 253511 developers-reference severity 253511 wishlist tags 253511 - wontfix retitle 253511 "provide guideline to keep the package namespace sane" thanks Hi, Thanks for cleaning up BTS. I agree with the rationale of Russ on closing this bug. As I look back, this old bug re

Processed: reassign to developers-reference (Rejected: Bug#253511)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reopen 253511 Bug#253511: [PROPOSAL] clarify "package must have a name that's unique ..." Bug reopened, originator not changed. > reassign 253511 developers-reference Bug#253511: [PROPOSAL] clarify "package must have a name that's unique ..." Bug reass

Bug#484841: Should /usr/local be writable by group staff?

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal This is a delegation of the resolution of Bug#299007 to the Technical Committee under points 1 and 3 of section 6.1 of the Constitution. As Policy delegate, I am not comfortable making a final decision either way on this bug and ask that the tech-ctte please ma

Bug#295006: marked as done (debian-policy: Virtual package: change mp3-encoder with music-encoder)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#299007: Insecure PATH in /root/.profile

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
package debian-policy user [EMAIL PROTECTED] usertag 299007 ctte thanks This proposal asks that directories in /usr/local no longer be writable by group staff. There clearly was not consensus in this bug discussion for making this change, but neither am I comfortable as a Policy delegate with sim

Bug#284340: Please remove reference to UC in BSD license

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
package debian-policy user [EMAIL PROTECTED] retitle 284340 Remove reference to UC in BSD license or remove license usertag 284340 = normative discussion tags 284340 -wontfix thanks This bug proposed two changes: first, remove the specific reference to the University of California from the BSD lic

Processed: Re: Bug#284340: Please remove reference to UC in BSD license

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > package debian-policy Ignoring bugs not assigned to: debian-policy > user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Setting user to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (was [EMAIL PROTECTED]). > retitle 284340 Remove reference to UC in BSD license or remove license Bug#284340: base-files: Plea

Bug#169600: marked as done (Policy should mandate a place for init.d script to log errors to)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:30:49 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#169600: Policy should mandate a place for init.d script to log errors to has caused the Debian Bug report #169600, regarding Policy should mandate a place for init.d script to log

Bug#122817: marked as done (base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:23:31 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#122817: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile has caused the Debian Bug report #122817, regarding base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile to be marked as

Bug#253511: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] clarify "package must have a name that's unique ...")

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:52:17 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#253511: clarify "package must have a name that's unique ..." has caused the Debian Bug report #253511, regarding [PROPOSAL] clarify "package must have a name that's unique ..." to

Bug#99324: marked as done (Default charset should be UTF-8)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:11:15 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8 has caused the Debian Bug report #99324, regarding Default charset should be UTF-8 to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the

Bug#102213: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] Policy interpretation and exceptions)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:18:40 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#102213: Policy interpretation and exceptions has caused the Debian Bug report #102213, regarding [PROPOSAL] Policy interpretation and exceptions to be marked as done. This means t

Bug#161912: dropping 30000-59999 uid/gid reservation

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We could add all or part of this range to the dynamic range. I think we should add all of 3-5 to the dynamic range. I'm sure that Stanford isn't the only site that's already ignoring the Debian reservation and using those UIDs for other purposes.

Bug#484656: debian-policy: .desktop files have are a freedesktop.org standard but not debian policy

2008-06-06 Thread Yavor Doganov
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:07:21AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > GnuSTEP does something else entirely with them. And something entirely broken, I would add. (BTW, the proper name is "GNUstep".) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMA

Bug#331532: marked as done ([DISCUSS] change �10.4 "set -e OR check return status" to AND or be rewritten)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:20:03 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#331532: change §10.4 "set -e OR check return status" to AND or be rewritten has caused the Debian Bug report #331532, regarding [DISCUSS] change �10.4 "set -e OR check return stat

Bug#484656: [Modified] Re: Bug#484656: debian-policy: .desktop files have are a freedesktop.org standard but not debian policy

2008-06-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:12:27 -0500 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:55:45 -0400, Daniel Dickinson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > For freedesktop.org compliant window managers .desktop files under > > /usr/share/applications are considered the preferred

Bug#203650: marked as done (Poor recommendation in dpkg-statoverride section)

2008-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:46:57 -0700 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Rejected: Bug#203650: Poor recommendation in dpkg-statoverride section has caused the Debian Bug report #203650, regarding Poor recommendation in dpkg-statoverride section to be marked as done.

Bug#89038: mime policy copying update-mime(8)

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it sufficient and desirable to lift the file format description > from update-mime(8) and place it into mime-policy.sgml? If we're going to keep mime-policy, that sounds like the right solution to me. We should at least consider merging the small amou

Rejected: Bug#331532: change §10.4 "set -e OR check return status" to AND or be rewritten

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal disagrees with the current Policy recommendation that shell scripts start with set -e or check the exit status of each command. The contention in this proposal is that this makes shell scripts unnecessarily intolerant to problems and scripts should instead continue where possible aft

Rejected: Bug#295006: Virtual package: change mp3-encoder with music-encoder

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal would change the virtual package name mp3-encoder to music-encoder or audio-encoder, allowing ripping tools to depend on music-encoder rather than the various available tools. As mentioned in the bug, the problem is that the interface for an audio-encoder virtual package is undefined

Rejected: Bug#253511: clarify "package must have a name that's unique ..."

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This is a proposal to add some standards to Policy for how packages should be named to avoid short package names or names that are more common than the package deserves (camera, terminal, etc.). The proposal was discussed briefly in 2004 and then the discussion died without proposed wording or app

Rejected: Bug#203650: Poor recommendation in dpkg-statoverride section

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal concerns packages that need to have files owned by a dynamically created user. Currently, Policy recommends use of dpkg-statoverride in postinst to change the ownership to the dynamically created user after the user has been created. This Policy proposal would instead create the use

Rejected: Bug#169600: Policy should mandate a place for init.d script to log errors to

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal asks that Policy mandate a location to which init scripts must log verbose errors. The original proposal was made in 2002 and there was little subsequent discussion in 2003. This Policy proposal is also not currently widely implemented in the archive and hence would be a change ahea

Rejected: Bug#122817: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal asks for an /etc/profile.d, the contents of which would be sourced by every shell and which could be used to set environment variables for all users. This is contrary to the intent of Policy 9.9, which explicitly prohibits programs from depending on environment variables to get reaso

Rejected: Bug#102213: Policy interpretation and exceptions

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This proposal would add to the scope section of the Policy document a paragraph saying that when Policy doesn't make sense, it should be discussed on -devel and -policy, and that if packages need to make an exception for some reason that shouldn't be mentioned in Policy, they should note this in RE

Rejected: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2008-06-06 Thread Russ Allbery
This bug proposes adding to Policy a requirement that Debian use UTF-8 everywhere in all files and file names and as the default character set for all locales. It has been open for many years in part because it's implications are so widespread as to be difficult to act on and in part because non-U

Bug#484511: Urgencies should all be lower case

2008-06-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11408 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: >> The code in dak, in the current form, is there since 2002-02-13, when >> jennifer (today process_unchecked) got added to the repository. Most >> probably something similar existed in the code before this. >> Its also nearly unchanged since then, with change

Re: Bug#479080: debian-policy: Policy '3.8 Essential packages' does not explain when/why essential is neccessary

2008-06-06 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080605 19:04]: > This is not part of the rationale for a package's inclusion in Essential, > it's an effect of a package's inclusion in Essential. > > Packages should only be in the Essential set if they have to be there to > guarantee the operation of dpkg. I