Re: trap / kill

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:46 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> We discussed including all of XSI, but there's a pile of other stuff >> in XSI that I think we decided that dash didn't actually implement. I >> don't remember the details

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Better document version ranking and 0

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:41 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> The following patch, from branch bug458910-rra, looks good to me. >> That's two seconds, so I should merge it. Is there s

Re: Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:24:12 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Do you honestly think that the chnages to dpkg should have been kept >> out, until they managed to get policy changed? That dpkg would have >> been kept out of lenny until they fixed dpkg not to have the >> interface me

Re: Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:07:05 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:39:21 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >>> Joey had reported at the time that most programs in Debian had moved >>> to using sensibl

Re: trap / kill

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:08:46 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I think recent discussion on the libtool list revealed that libtool > used numbers for one of the signals that XSI doesn't allow you to use > signals for (SIGPIPE, I think it was, but I didn't go check). > Ironically, l

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Better document version ranking and 0

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:10:41 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The following patch, from branch bug458910-rra, looks good to me. > That's two seconds, so I should merge it. Is there some way that I > can include the Acked-by informat

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:39:40 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> That's actually on my to-do list. I think that belongs in Policy as >> well (particularly the non-Browser headers, which are used for >> interoperability within the projec

Re: [PATCH 1/1] Better document version ranking and 0

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following patch, from branch bug458910-rra, looks good to > me. That's two seconds, so I should merge it. Is there some way that I can include the Acked-by information in a merge when I do the merge? Hm, actually, I'm guessing probably

Re: trap / kill

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would not have minded trying to fix 179 packages to use signal > names rather than numbers; but if Autoconf and Libtool use numbers, > then the problem grows larger. > > Mind you, XSI extensions allow the use of numbers instead of

Re: Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:39:21 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Joey had reported at the time that most programs in Debian had moved to >> using sensible-browser or honoring BROWSER, but that was some time ago >> and the archive has mov

[PATCH 1/1] Better document version ranking and 0

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, The following patch, from branch bug458910-rra, looks good to me. manoj > Document that an empty Debian revision is equivalent to a Debian > revision of 0 and clarify the way version numbers are compared. Thanks > to Raphael Hertzog for information about what dpkg does. Ac

Re: Time for a release?

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:03:35 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> If that sounds good, I'll merge from master into all the pending bug >> branches > I did this anyway, since there seems to be no downside. I also > deleted the stray bug bran

Re: trap / kill

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:49:47 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> With Adam agreeing to make this private conversation public, please >> read below and comment. If necessary I don't mind a report to be >> filled against the package. > P

Re: Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:39:21 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Joey had reported at the time that most programs in Debian had moved > to using sensible-browser or honoring BROWSER, but that was some time > ago and the archive has moved on since then. I'm not sure (outside of > the

Re: Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:39:40 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:14:18 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >>> Policy is the only formal documentation we have right now of the >>> control fields in

Bug#250202: "debian/README.source" file for packages with non-trivial source

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest to end this paragraph with > > + system (for example, a package that builds the same source > + multiple times to generate different binary packages, or a > + package which had to change the upstream tarball due to > + te

Bug#250202: "debian/README.source" file for packages with non-trivial source

2008-04-29 Thread Frank Küster
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > + > + debian/README.source may also include any other > + information that would be helpful to someone modifying the > + source package. Even if the package doesn't fit the above > + description, maintainers are encouraged to

Bug#458910: debian-policy: Policy and dpkg disagree on debian revision tests.

2008-04-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here is a proposed patch that also clarifies the comparison of version > numbers a bit. Seconds? Seconded. Looks fine. -- Raphaël Hertzog Le best-seller français mis à jour pour Debian Etch : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ signature.asc De

Processed: reopening 478295

2008-04-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also we must consider if that's something better standardized at the > freedesktop level. Consider for example that we might want to mandate > the usage of xdg-open to call a browser, that matches existing pratice > and xdg-open could be modified so th

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:14:18 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Policy is the only formal documentation we have right now of the >> control fields in a Debian package, so I think there's at least a prima >> facie argument for adding a

Bug#477428: SIL OFL should be included in common-licenses

2008-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Since the Artistic, BSD, GPL, and LGPL licenses are included in >>> /usr/share/common-licenses, would it be possible to get the SIL OFL >>> included as well? >> It's in many respects b

Bug#477428: SIL OFL should be included in common-licenses

2008-04-29 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Russ Allbery wrote: Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Since the Artistic, BSD, GPL, and LGPL licenses are included in /usr/share/common-licenses, would it be possible to get the SIL OFL included as well? It's in many respects better to include the license directly in debian/copyright,

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:14:18 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Policy is the only formal documentation we have right now of the > control fields in a Debian package, so I think there's at least a > prima facie argument for adding a specification for any new fields to > Policy, at le

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Various other software, like debsign and dak, had to be changed. The > policy is not just about what the general package maintainer should > know, it's also how our tools should interact. > > If you don't think the format of the .dsc and .changes should b

Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?

2008-04-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > No, thanks. Let's please not allow programs to say "I'll ignore your > > system-wide setting because I use some other system-wide setting > > instead". There should be only one default browser on a system. > > I agree to that. And I think this is a re

Bug#478295: Sha1 and sha256 in .changes and .dsc file

2008-04-29 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:04:44PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:02:55 +0200, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > dpkg has added new fields in the .dsc and .changes file. > > > They both can now contains two new fields: Checksums-Sha1 > > Checksums-Sha256