Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Martin, I agree with Russ that before putting too much weight on this directive we should think about how to handle overwritten generated files. According to current policy files like config.guess and config.sub must be restored by "clean". Some of the packages I maintain violate that, and I c

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This one time, at band camp, Russ Allbery said: >> As previously discussed, it's very difficult to comply with this >> directive as written if one is following the autotools-dev >> recommendations for how to regenerate the various autotools files. >> Befo

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Russ Allbery said: > Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > clean > > > This must undo any effects that the build and binary targets may > > have had, except that it should leave alone any output files created > > in the parent directory by a run o

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Andreas Barth
* Martin Zobel-Helas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061110 22:41]: > On Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 10:48:15 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > Certainly, though, being unable to build a package twice is a bug that > > should be reported against that package. (I actually don't know if any of > > my packages have t

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
On Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 10:48:15 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Certainly, though, being unable to build a package twice is a bug that > should be reported against that package. (I actually don't know if any of > my packages have this problem; some of them have so many build > dependencies that I

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On Fri November 10 2006 02:36, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:01:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Firstly, should we be pointing to the SuS instead of POSIX > > (there is work going on a new version of the SUS), since it is > > open, and readily avail

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > clean > This must undo any effects that the build and binary targets may > have had, except that it should leave alone any output files created > in the parent directory by a run of a binary target. > We already have this rule, and it is a

Re: Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Kurt Roeckx said: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > > > during the last months i had to review several packages. Quite a number > > of packages were not buildable two times (eg. "unrepresentable changes > > to source"). Most of t

Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: important > > > Hi, > > during the last months i had to review several packages. Quite a number > of packages were not buildable two times (eg. "unrepresentable changes > to source"). Most of

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2006-11-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:11:22 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Package: debian-policy Severity: important > Hi, > during the last months i had to review several packages. Quite a > number of packages were not buildable two times > (eg. "unrepresentable changes to source").

Bug#128734: Who cleaned out her ears with a spoon

2006-11-10 Thread Amber Singh
Hi! He started smoking when he was two. I think that's pretty cool. He just can't wait to read my books- School is closed now, what's it to ya? There was mischief in their eyes. When I got on the school bus, that I am such a slob. And then I felt a third and fourth. He just can't wait to read my

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:33:13 -0800, Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'd like to see this say something about what may be assumed of the > standard shell utilities, as well as the shell itself, and in > particular I'd like to see coreutils bug #339085 addressed [please > see the bug l

Bug#397939: Proposal: Packages must have a working clean target

2006-11-10 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Package: debian-policy Severity: important Hi, during the last months i had to review several packages. Quite a number of packages were not buildable two times (eg. "unrepresentable changes to source"). Most of these packages used svn-buildpackage or cvs-buildpackage. This bug is quite annoying

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-10 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:01:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Firstly, should we be pointing to the SuS instead of POSIX > (there is work going on a new version of the SUS), since it is open, > and readily available on th 'net, and people can readily see it (as > opposed t