Bug#193103: marked as done (debian-policy: maybe say that programs that output HTML etc. should output valid HTML etc.)

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:17:36 -0500 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#193103: debian-policy: maybe say that programs that output HTML etc. should output valid HTML etc. has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that th

Re: Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:25:58 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Fortunately, this is not an amazingly big deal. In your opinion, of course. manoj -- It is not good for a man to be without knowledge, and he who makes haste with his feet misses his way. Proverbs 19:2

Re: Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:52:58 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.9.0 Severity: wishlist > Every so often, somebody encounters the bit of the policy manual > that says: > Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values > (excludi

Re: Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:33:23 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Yes yes, we know all that. However, hundreds of release-critical bug > reports cause very real practical problems for our release > management processes, especially when they are unnecessary. Hundreds of RC bugs

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 05:58:28PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > [ no need to CC me ] > > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 17:39, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > No, I'm using bash... > > Weird. It works here. What's your $LANG? If you're inputting Unicode > it should probably be something.UTF-8. it is:

CVS joy: removed the extra spaces at the ends of lines (wtf?!)

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: joy Sat Jun 7 17:14:50 MDT 2003 Modified files: . : policy.sgml Log message: removed the extra spaces at the ends of lines (wtf?!)

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Walters
[ no need to CC me ] On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 17:39, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > No, I'm using bash... Weird. It works here. What's your $LANG? If you're inputting Unicode it should probably be something.UTF-8.

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 04:17:15PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:36, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Yeah, but it's not always as good as the legacy support is. For > > instance, last I tried uxterm (like, 2 minutes ago), I put in a euro > > sign somewhere. Which appeared cor

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:36, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Yeah, but it's not always as good as the legacy support is. For > instance, last I tried uxterm (like, 2 minutes ago), I put in a euro > sign somewhere. Which appeared correctly (hurray), but doing backspace > over that didn't do what it was su

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 09:31:26PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 04:21:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > What do you lose here? Those who have fonts that can display the > > character in question will be able to do so; those who don't won't, but > > will see some reasona

CVS srivasta: Various fixes toallowvlaidation. Updated the upgfrading checklist,

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 14:15:51 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : upgrading-checklist.html policy.sgml Log message: Various fixes toallowvlaidation. Updated

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:01:49PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 09:59, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > > > I am using KOI8-R terminal which can not display Latin-1 characters, and > > it seems backward to me to mandate or even allow _usage_ of UTF-8 ahead > > of getting it _suppo

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 04:21:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > What do you lose here? Those who have fonts that can display the > character in question will be able to do so; those who don't won't, but > will see some reasonably obvious indicator like a "?" or a filled-in > square to show that the

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 13:43, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > I don't see it as a proper credit to your contributors if their name > appears as 'J?rg?n' (or even '' in case of Kanji) on my display. That's a problem with your display. > What I objected to is that they may: I'd rather they may not.

Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Richard Braakman
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:52:58PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > (I'm not sure in exactly what format ftpmaster would prefer > reports like this - perhaps somebody could clarify - but I do know that > hassling maintainers is a horribly ineffective way to get this job > done.) I can give you the per

CVS srivasta: Woops. typo.

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 12:31:22 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : rules Log message: Woops. typo.

CVS srivasta: Various small fixes and typographical corrections.

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 12:24:41 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : policy.sgml perl-policy.sgml menu-policy.sgml Log message: Various small fixes and typograp

Processed: Fixing Severities etc

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 183195 normal Bug#183195: Section 7.5.1 does not describe dpkg's true behavior Severity set to `normal'. > retitle 99933 [PENDING AMENDMENT 06/07/2001] Encourage use of UTF-8 in > documentation and clarify encoding issues Bug#99933: [AMENDM

CVS srivasta: Fixed the fact that section 7.5.1 does not describe dpkg's true

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 12:05:49 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : policy.sgml menu-policy.sgml Log message: Fixed the fact that section 7.5.1 does not descri

CVS srivasta: Added Apps/Educational to menu subpolicy

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 11:57:59 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog Log message: Added Apps/Educational to menu subpolicy

CVS srivasta: [AMENDMENT 6/6/2003] build-depends-indep should not be satisfied

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 11:54:43 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : policy.sgml Log message: [AMENDMENT 6/6/2003] build-depends-indep should not be satisfied

CVS srivasta: [AMENDMENT 02/05/2003] encourage packagers to systematically prevent

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 11:47:25 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : policy.sgml Log message: [AMENDMENT 02/05/2003] encourage packagers to systematically preve

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 04:21:33PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: DB>> I am using KOI8-R terminal which can not display Latin-1 DB>> characters, CW> Where did Latin-1 come into this? I said characters, not encoding, and I mean that KOI8-R character set does not include characters from Latin-1. Ther

CVS srivasta: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded. Changed the wording from a

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 11:39:18 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : rules changelog . : policy.sgml Makefile Log message: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded. Changed

CVS srivasta: added Games/Simulation to menu subpolicy

2003-06-07 Thread Debian Policy CVS
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSat Jun 7 10:51:06 MDT 2003 Modified files: debian : changelog . : menu-policy.sgml Log message: added Games/Simulation to menu subpolicy

Re: menu-policy update process

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:37:40 -0700, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:17:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >> I personally think that these types of things are better handled by >> having one person who just comes up with something logical and >> consistant. > I agre

Re: Bug#194974: [PROPOSAL] add Games/Simulation to menu subpolicy

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:40:52 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > This would limit Games/Simulation to simulations of airplanes and > life (or whatever that's called). I don't see the reason why > billards/pool games fit in sports and airplane simulations > do. Neither of them are Olympi

Re: Bug#194974: [PROPOSAL] add Games/Simulation to menu subpolicy

2003-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 28 May 2003 10:41:16 +0200, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Life games are cellular automata which are studied in computer > sciences, why not Apps/Science. Because the simulation really has nothing to do with science - it is a cute little mathematical toy, and is far

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 09:59, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > I am using KOI8-R terminal which can not display Latin-1 characters, and > it seems backward to me to mandate or even allow _usage_ of UTF-8 ahead > of getting it _supported_ across the system. A growing amount of software in Debian has UTF

Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:16:02PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 21:39, Chris Waters wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:52:58PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Every so often, somebody encounters the bit of the policy manual that > > > says: > > > Packages must not depend

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 04:59:29PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:57:06PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > JR>> the only thing that will change is that if someone complains at > JR>> people who use UTF-8 in changelogs, a new retort will be > JR>> available, "THE POLICY

Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 03:40:37PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:39:45PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > And since we do make mistakes here, and since any change can cause a > > "ripple-effect", making other packages suddenly violate this clause, > > and since violations o

Re: Status of UTF-8 Debian changelogs

2003-06-07 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:57:06PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: JR>> the only thing that will change is that if someone complains at JR>> people who use UTF-8 in changelogs, a new retort will be JR>> available, "THE POLICY MADE ME DO IT!!1!", or similar. CW> Why would someone complain? I would

Bug#196367: debian-policy: clarify what to do about priority mismatches

2003-06-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:39:45PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > And since we do make mistakes here, and since any change can cause a > "ripple-effect", making other packages suddenly violate this clause, > and since violations of this are both quite harmless and hard-to-spot, > how about we change