Bug#60979: What /etc/init.d/xxx restart does?

2002-09-12 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 10:30:21PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 18:43, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > Starting and stopping a service should be idempotent, i.e. further > > attempts should silently succeed. > If I start something that is already started, I want it to tell me

Re: EARLY PROPOSAL Apache (and webapp?) policy

2002-09-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Suggestions are very welcome. And yes before we start that discussion. > This is needed because sometimes this kind of things are really > a mess. Why do we necessarily need two separate dirs for config stuff? Why not just /etc/apacheconf/config.d for

Bug#60979: What /etc/init.d/xxx restart does?

2002-09-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 18:43, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Starting and stopping a service should be idempotent, i.e. further > attempts should silently succeed. I don't agree with that, if that is what current policy says (but I don't think it does). If I start something that is already started, I

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Yann Dirson
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:57:25AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> I thought (as outlined in a related bugreport, although my words in > >> this report were a bit confused) that the policy should have made the > >> binary-arch target mandatory, so that the atobuilders could know from > >> t

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Yann Dirson
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 04:06:17PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > autobuilders might well just call "debian/rules binary-arch" and > > everything should work. What autobuilders actually do, I don't know. > > Note that binary* r

Bug#60979: What /etc/init.d/xxx restart does?

2002-09-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I feel it is very important every init script behave the same. However the > wording of section 10.3.2 is confusing: > >The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly if invoked >with start when the service is already running,

Re: Reviewing policy bugs

2002-09-12 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 at 00:34:49 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Perusuant to my message earlier, there are the first set of > pending bug reports ... > * #143941: define a usable character set for description/maintainer >* name > etc. > Package: debian-policy;

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Julian> On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 10:02:21PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: >> I couldn't find in policy 3.5.7.0 any requirement that would allow >> an autobuilder to know it should call "debian/rules build-arch" >> instead of "debian/rules buil

EARLY PROPOSAL Apache (and webapp?) policy

2002-09-12 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Some time ago I posted my early draft of an apache/webapp proposal. I have now posted it again on the apache list. Because of the lack of complaints there (yes I think it might need one or two) I post it here too (before I go to debian-devel and get flamed^M..discussed). The url is: http://ww

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > autobuilders might well just call "debian/rules binary-arch" and > everything should work. What autobuilders actually do, I don't know. Note that binary* require root (or fakeroot) to build the .deb, whereas build* doesn't require

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Santiago Vila
Yann Dirson wrote: > I couldn't find in policy 3.5.7.0 any requirement that would allow an > autobuilder to know it should call "debian/rules build-arch" instead > of "debian/rules build", prior to call "fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch". > > I thought (as outlined in a related bugreport, although

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 10:02:21PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: > I couldn't find in policy 3.5.7.0 any requirement that would allow an > autobuilder to know it should call "debian/rules build-arch" instead > of "debian/rules build", prior to call "fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch". > > I thought (a