Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:43:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:27:43PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Why are you CC'ing me? Are you interested in having a discussion of > > these issues, or just in provoking me by filling my inbox? > > I Cc'd you because you didn't

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:27:43PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Why are you CC'ing me? Are you interested in having a discussion of > these issues, or just in provoking me by filling my inbox? I Cc'd you because you didn't have a Mail-Followup-To: header indicating otherwise. Probably not the

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:39:25PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > You're telling me why the context matters. You're not telling me why > the unicode naming of the code points matters. Why are you CC'ing me? Are you interested in having a discussion of these issues, or just in provoking me by fillin

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
> > > > Also, Unicode does include Fraktur characters. > > > > > > but in mathematical symbols - that is a completely different beast On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:48:24PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > Please explain why it matters to the reader whether the letter A is > > classifed by the unicode co

Bug#100472: PROPOSAL] allowing '-' between libraryname and soversion

2001-06-11 Thread Andreas Bombe
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 07:51:09PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Andreas Bombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Package: debian-policy > > Version: 3.5.5.0 > > Severity: wishlist > > > $ egrep '^Package: lib.*-[[:digit:]]*$' unstable-Packages > > Package: lib3ds-1.0-0 > > Package: libasis-3.13p-1 > > P

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:48:24PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > > Also, Unicode does include Fraktur characters. > > > > but in mathematical symbols - that is a completely different beast > > Please explain why it matters to the reader whether the letter A is > classifed by the unicode consortium

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:34:40PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:47:18PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > The situation is IMHO quite similar to german for using Fraktur > > (S?tterlin) script - it is a latin script, and unicode consortium > > (IMHO rightfully) decided

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
> > I disagree. The Han Unification issue is more like the difference > > between the latin and the italic character sets. Yes, many characters On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 07:20:21PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > No, because latin (upright) and italics are used interchangebly, > whereas fraktur ca

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Florian Weimer
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I am really not sure if unicode went the right way, I feel the ability > > to display Chinese name in a Japanese document using Chinese glyphs > > (or vice versa) is something that should not be get rid of... > > And, this could be rectified -- with Un

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 07:54:53PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > IMHO, a better mechanism are Unicode 3.1 language tags, see: > > http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr27/#tag Which says: The characters in this block provide a mechanism for language tagging in Unicode plain te

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:47:18PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > my proposal is #99933 Thanks. > does JIS X0208 allow chinese characters to be used together with > japanese? I don't think so. However, JIS X0208 implies a japanese character set and the japanese language, while unicode indicate

Bug#99933: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:07:21AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:41:13AM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > Please read the proposal carefully (especially Marco and Junichi). > > Writting (converting into) documents in UTF-8 is "should" > > I'm quite aware of that. [There'

Bug#100346: PROPOSAL] Do not mandate existence of shared libraries

2001-06-11 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 07:47:26PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > As to the bash breakage, please quote the number. Thanks. The full description of it is in the logs of bug#35049. To get back to the policy proposal, I do think there are libraries that should not have shared versions. Namely, ones t

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:41:13AM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > Please read the proposal carefully (especially Marco and Junichi). > Writting (converting into) documents in UTF-8 is "should" I'm quite aware of that. [There's also a "should" on using a single character set within a package.] U

Bug#100346: PROPOSAL] Do not mandate existence of shared libraries

2001-06-11 Thread Herbert Xu
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:20:48AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: >> Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > and neither is libc6 because some parts of it can only be linked >> > statically. >> >> Which ones? > /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a. It contains

Bug#100472: PROPOSAL] allowing '-' between libraryname and soversion

2001-06-11 Thread Herbert Xu
Andreas Bombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.5.5.0 > Severity: wishlist > $ egrep '^Package: lib.*-[[:digit:]]*$' unstable-Packages > Package: lib3ds-1.0-0 > Package: libasis-3.13p-1 > Package: libgnat-3.13p-1 > Package: libgtrans-mysql-3-23 > Package: libgtrans-p

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-11 Thread Radovan Garabik
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Converting all documentation to utf-8 is ridiculous, and unnecessary. > > Do you think the currently proposed policy (documentation should be Please read the proposal carefully (especially Marco and Junichi). Writting (converting into) documents in UTF-