CVS srivasta: Updated the build depends; deconf_specification pulls us into the XML worls

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:50:25 PST 2001 Modified files: debian : control rules Log message: Updated the build depends; deconf_specification pulls us into the XML worls

CVS srivasta: Another Typo

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:30:51 PST 2001 Modified files: debian : rules Log message: Another Typo

CVS srivasta: typo in rules file

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:21:11 PST 2001 Modified files: debian : rules Log message: typo in rules file

Bug#83977: [PROPOSED] include Perl Policy

2001-01-28 Thread Brendan O'Dea
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist [Copy to Raphaël as author of the original perl-policy document] I am working towards a new release of Perl with substantial changes to the current perl-5.6 packaging: deb http://people.debian.org/~bod perl/$(ARCH)/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~

CVS srivasta: * There have been numerous changes since the last major change, and

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:15:26 PST 2001 Modified files: . : upgrading-checklist.html Log message: * There have been numerous changes since the last major change, and peole have had tiome no

CVS srivasta: * There have been numerous changes since the last major change, and

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:04:59 PST 2001 Modified files: . : policy.sgml upgrading-checklist.html virtual-package-names-list.text debian : changelog

Processed: cleaning up he status

2001-01-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 82595 wishlist Bug#82595: [PROPOSAL] remove extraneous kernel includes from libc6-dev Severity set to `wishlist'. > retitle 83669 [PROPOSAL] Handling if shared libraries Bug#83669: Shared libraries Changed Bug title. > severity 83669 wishlis

CVS srivasta:

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:01:00 PST 2001 debian-policy/debconf_spec/include Update of /cvs/debian-policy/debian-policy/debconf_spec/include In directory klecker:/tmp/cvs-serv26469/debconf_spec/include Log Messag

CVS srivasta:

2001-01-28 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaSun Jan 28 20:00:13 PST 2001 debian-policy/debconf_spec Update of /cvs/debian-policy/debian-policy/debconf_spec In directory klecker:/tmp/cvs-serv26384/debconf_spec Log Message: Directory /cvs/debian

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:05:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: > > Would you also object to adding a header to the Packages files something > > like: > > >Package: xine-decss > >Section: non-US/utils > >Distribution-Hint: non-US, non-UK >

Bug#83960: minor typos in policy.sgml

2001-01-28 Thread Brendan O'Dea
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.2.1.2 Patch to fix some typos. --- policy.sgml.origMon Jan 29 11:22:51 2001 +++ policy.sgml Mon Jan 29 11:29:03 2001 @@ -2239,7 +2239,7 @@ - Broadly speaking the is called before + Broadly speaking the preinst is ca

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Jakob Bøhm
Jakob Bøhm wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > However some of this is speculative, maybe someone > closer to the core should survey the existing mirrors > to check how many can actually carry crypto legally, > then it would be easier to decide whether or not > losing the remaining mirror

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On 29 Jan 2001, Brian May wrote: > Matthew> If you're thinking of creating a meta-package called > Matthew> 'stable' which depends on the stable version of every > Matthew> package, typing apt-get upgrade stable will install every > > How big would the depends: line get? then again, d

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Brian May
> "Matthew" == Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matthew> If you're thinking of creating a meta-package called Matthew> 'stable' which depends on the stable version of every Matthew> package, typing apt-get upgrade stable will install every How big would the depends: line

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Russell Nelson wrote: > > Russell> I propose that Debian eliminate the concept of the stable > > Russell> vs unstable distributions, and instead have a > > Russell> meta-package called "stable". If I say "apt-get upgrade > > Russell> stable", that upgrades

Bug#83924: upgrading-checklist.text should mention DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS specifically

2001-01-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.2.1.2 Severity: minor upgrading-checklist.text states: - By default executables should not be built with the debugging option -g. Instead, it is recommended to support building the package with debugging information optionally. It would be nic

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Arthur" == Arthur Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arthur> Hi Arthur> Manoj Srivastava schrieb: >> I repeat: we only have non-US since master lives in US, and we >> must obey US laws for master while master is here. How up are >> you on the laws of Bhutan, if I may ask? Arthur> Why is ma

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Jakob" == Jakob Bøhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jakob> 5. For countries in which almost anything is illegal, Jakob> dropping Debian mirroring in those countries is already Jakob> being done as a solution. The end cases are not the problem; what is a problem is that there is a spe

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Russell Nelson schrieb: > Arthur Korn writes: > > Debian source package installs could be used for much more, like > > very specific binary optimisations, builds with different > > features/dependencies, debugging builds. (The latter already > > exists in policy, though few packages use DEB_BUI

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 12:41:54AM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote: > Here's the problem as I see it. I want to run an operating system > where I get to choose the level of instability. So, when I run > "apt-get update", I only want to get stable packages downloaded. On > the other hand, I want to b

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Arthur Korn writes: > Russell Nelson schrieb: > > Is Debian's stable/unstable split a broken concept? > > No, if you need a _really_ stable system it's not. You're trying to define "stable" for the sysadmin. Why not let the sysadmin define stable for themselves? They can just upgrade to "st

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Brian May writes: > > "Russell" == Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Russell> I propose that Debian eliminate the concept of the stable > Russell> vs unstable distributions, and instead have a > Russell> meta-package called "stable". If I say "apt-get upgrade >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Jakob Bøhm
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >>"Jakob" == Jakob Bøhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jakob> The main archive is mirrored and copied around the globe both > Jakob> inside and outside SPI. Including anything which it would > Jakob> be illegal to post or copy anywhere in the world could get >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Seth Arnold schrieb: > No, moving the main server to some other country would just strain the > poor intercontinental links all the more, as nice a political statement > as it would make. There could still be partial mirrors everywhere, but only _one_ master. ciao, 2ri

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Seth Arnold
* Arthur Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010128 03:48]: > Shure the US is getting preferential treatment. Would you ever > bother to set up master in, say, Iran and have to maintain a > second master even though everything could be put onto the > second master in the first place? I would guess a large p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Manoj Srivastava schrieb: > I repeat: we only have non-US since master lives in US, and we > must obey US laws for master while master is here. How up are > you on the laws of Bhutan, if I may ask? Why is master in such a restrictive country as the US anyway? As long as there are any contries

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Russell Nelson schrieb: > Is Debian's stable/unstable split a broken concept? No, if you need a _really_ stable system it's not. [ Ways to install Python 2.0 on stable: * (partial) upgrade to unstable * install locally from source ] Well, there is a third option, apt-get -b source. Debian sourc

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Jon Eisenstein
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Joey Hess wrote: > Jon Eisenstein wrote: > > Although I haven't tried it myself, I know many people have used another > > alternative and have had no major problems: Change sources.list to point > > to unstable, apt-get install X, and change sources.list back to > > stable. Po

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: Anthony> On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 08:38:37PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >>"Jakob" == Jakob Bøhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Oh, in case you are wondering, I shall formally object to any >> such scheme to pull any more software off master that we

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Joey Hess
Jon Eisenstein wrote: > Although I haven't tried it myself, I know many people have used another > alternative and have had no major problems: Change sources.list to point > to unstable, apt-get install X, and change sources.list back to > stable. Possibly, since this works when done in this way, m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 08:38:37PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Debian is inclusive; and things that can't be put on master > are put on the non-{the country master lives in} servers. People in > jurisdiction where some software is illegal, can always craft rsync > rules to do partial

Re: Is the stable/unstable split broken?

2001-01-28 Thread Brian May
> "Russell" == Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> I propose that Debian eliminate the concept of the stable Russell> vs unstable distributions, and instead have a Russell> meta-package called "stable". If I say "apt-get upgrade Russell> stable", that upgrades