Jakob Bøhm wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > However some of this is speculative, maybe someone > closer to the core should survey the existing mirrors > to check how many can actually carry crypto legally, > then it would be easier to decide whether or not > losing the remaining mirrors is acceptable. > IANAL
Inspired by my own e-mail, I have spent the past few hours checking how many mirrors were currently carrying non-US, and thus unaffected by the issue. And I must say the proportion has gone up a lot since I last checked several months ago. In light of the below results, I drop my proposals. P.S. Sorry about the long lines in the table below. On Sun Jan 28 2001, I did a quick check of all mirrors listed in README.mirrors. Each site was manually browsed to see if it appeared to carry a mirror of non-US, no actual files were downloaded. Where a site had both ftp and http, ftp was preferred and http used only if failure. Summary: Countries with no non-US mirrors: none (not even US) Countries where no mirrors found but some sites could not be checked: CN (China), CR (Costa Rica) and ID (Indonesia) Legend: OK: Appears to carry non-US BAD: Appears not to carry non-US and may have trouble carrying main if crypto included. other: Technical difficulty browsing site. non-US HOSTNAME FTP HTTP ------ -------- --- ---- AT Austria ---------- OK ftp.at.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ NO RESP gd.tuwien.ac.at /opsys/linux/debian/ /opsys/linux/debian/ OK debian.mur.at /debian/ /debian/ AU Australia ------------ OK ftp.wa.au.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.au.debian.org /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ OK ftp.monash.edu.au /pub/linux/debian/ /pub/linux/debian/ OK linux.org.au /pub/debian/ /mirrors/debian/ OK ftp.uwa.edu.au /mirrors/linux/debian/ NO RESP ftp.tower.net.au /debian/ NO RESP mirror.cse.unsw.edu.au /debian/ /debian/ OK debian-ftp.pacific.net.au /debian/ OK mirror.pacific.net.au /debian/ BE Belgium ---------- OK ftp.tiscalinet.be /debian/ OK ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be /pub/mirror/ftp.debian.org/debian/ OK ftp.easynet.be /debian/ /ftp/debian/ BAD mirrors.pandora.be /mirrors8/ftp.debian.org/ BG Bulgaria ----------- OK ftp.bg.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BR Brazil --------- OK debian.lcmi.ufsc.br /pub/debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.quimica.ufpr.br /debian/ OK download.unesp.br /linux/debian/ CA Canada --------- BAD ftp.ca.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OVERLOADED ftp.crc.ca /systems/linux/debian/ OK mirror.direct.ca /linux/debian/ BAD debian.yorku.ca /debian/ OK ftp.vlug.org /dists/debian/ CH Switzerland -------------- OK sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch /mirror/debian/ /ftp/mirror/debian/ BAD ftp.dplanet.ch /mirror/debian/ CN China -------- BAD sunsite.ust.hk /pub/debian/ NO ROUTE ftp.debian.org.hk /debian/ /debian/ CR Costa Rica ------------- NO RESP debian.efis.ucr.ac.cr /debian/ /debian/ CZ Czech Republic ----------------- BAD ftp.debian.cz /debian/ /debian/ OK debian.sh.cvut.cz /debian/ /debian/ DE Germany ---------- OK ftp.tu-clausthal.de /pub/linux/debian/ /pub/linux/debian/ OK ftp.de.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK source.rfc822.org /debian/ /debian/ OK debian.uni-essen.de /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.freenet.de /pub/ftp.debian.org/debian/ /pub/ftp.debian.org/debian/ OK ftp.gigabell.net /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.uni-mainz.de /pub/Linux/debian/ OK ftp.uni-erlangen.de /pub/Linux/debian/ /pub/Linux/debian/ OK sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de /pub/Linux/debian/ /ftp/pub/Linux/debian/ OK ftp.nacamar.de /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ BAD ftp.nikoma.de /pub/debian/ OK ftp.de.uu.net /pub/linux/debian/ OK ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de /pub/Mirrors/ftp.debian.org/debian//pub/Mirrors/ftp.debian.org/debian/ NO RESP ftp.stw-bonn.de /pub/mirror/debian/ DK Denmark ---------- OK ftp.sunsite.auc.dk /pub/os/linux/debian/ /ftp/pub/os/linux/debian/ OK ftp.uni-c.dk /mirror/ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/ OK ftp.dk.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.dkuug.dk /pub/debian/ EE Estonia ---------- OK ftp.ee.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ ES Spain -------- OK ftp.es.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ NO RESP ceu.fi.udc.es /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.gul.uc3m.es /debian/ /debian/ NO RESP ulises.adi.uam.es /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.gui.uva.es /pub/linux/debian BAD ftp.rediris.es /pub/linux/distributions/debian/ FI Finland ---------- OK ftp.fi.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ FR France --------- OK ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.eudil.fr /debian/ OK ftp.fr.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.minet.net /pub/distrib/debian/ OK ftp.info.iut-tlse3.fr /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.oleane.net /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ OK ftp.club-internet.fr /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.domicile.fr /pub/linux/debian/ /debian/ DOWN ftp.worldonline.fr /pub/debian/ CONN REFUSED ftp.lip6.fr /pub/linux/distributions/debian/ OK debian.ens-cachan.fr /debian/ /ftp/debian/ BAD ftp.ovh.net /mirrors/ftp.debian.org/ /mirrors/ftp.debian.org/ GB Great Britain ---------------- OK ftp.uk.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.demon.co.uk /pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ OVERLOADED sunsite.org.uk /Mirrors/ftp.debian.org/pub/debian//Mirrors/ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/ OK ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/distributions/Debian/ OK www.mirror.ac.uk /sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ /sites/ftp.debian.org/debian/ OK ftp.ticklers.org /debian/ BAD ftp.linux.co.uk /mirrors/ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/ GR Greece --------- OK debian.otenet.gr /pub/linux/debian/ /debian/ HK Hong Kong ------------ OK ftp.dll.com.hk /pub/Distributions/Debian/ OK xcyber.ath.cx /debian/ HR Croatia ---------- OK ftp.irb.hr /debian/ /debian/ HU Hungary ---------- OK ftp.index.hu /pub/debian/ OK ftp.kfki.hu /pub/linux/debian/ /ftp/linux/debian/ OK ftp.hu.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK debian.inf.elte.hu /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.linuxvilag.hu /debian/ ID Indonesia ------------ NO RESP debian-mirror.piksi.itb.ac.id /debian/ /debian/ NO RESP SunSITE.ui.ac.id /pub/linux/distro/debian/ /debian/ IE Ireland ---------- OK ftp.esat.net /mirrors/ftp.debian.org/debian/ /mirrors/ftp.debian.org/debian/ IT Italy -------- DOWN ftp.it.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD palmaria.garda-access.com /pub/linux/debian/ OK ftp.students.cs.unibo.it /debian/ OK freedom.dicea.unifi.it /ftp/pub/linux/debian/ /ftp/pub/linux/debian/ OK gusp.infogroup.it /pub/debian/ /debian/ OK debian.phc.unipi.it /debian/ /debian/ OVERLOADED ftp.flashnet.it /pub/ftp.debian.org/ BAD ftp.edisontel.com /pub/Debian_Mirror/ JP Japan -------- BAD mirror.nucba.ac.jp /mirror/debian/ /mirror/debian/ OK ftp.jp.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ring.asahi-net.or.jp /pub/debian/ /archives/linux/debian/debian/ BAD SunSITE.sut.ac.jp /pub/archives/linux/debian/ /pub/archives/linux/debian/ OK ftp.dti.ad.jp /pub/Linux/debian/ OK dennou-t.ms.u-tokyo.ac.jp /library/Linux/debian/ /library/Linux/debian/ OK dennou-h.ees.hokudai.ac.jp /library/Linux/debian/ /library/Linux/debian/ OK dennou-k.gaia.h.kyoto-u.ac.jp /library/Linux/debian/ /library/Linux/debian/ OK dennou-q.geo.kyushu-u.ac.jp /library/Linux/debian/ /library/Linux/debian/ OK ftp.jp.psi.net /pub/Linux/debian/ KR Korea -------- BAD ftp.kornet.net /pub/Linux/debian/ /pub/Linux/debian/ OK ftp.kr.debian.org /pub/debian/ NO RESP ftp.bora.net /pub/linux/debian/ LT Lithuania ------------ OK ameba.sc-uni.ktu.lt /debian/ /debian/ LV Latvia --------- OK ftp.latnet.lv /linux/debian/ /linux/debian/ MX Mexico --------- OK ftp.iteso.mx /debian/ /debian/ NL Netherlands -------------- BAD ftp.cistron.nl /pub/debian/ BAD ftp.nluug.nl /pub/os/Linux/distr/debian/ OK ftp.nl.debian.org /pub/linux/debian/ OK mirror.cybercomm.nl /pub/debian/ NO Norway --------- OK ftp.no.debian.org /debian/ OK debian.marked.no /debian/ NZ New Zealand -------------- OK ftp.nz.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.clear.net.nz /mirror/ftp.debian.org/debian/ PL Poland --------- OVERLOADED ftp.pl.debian.org /pub/debian/ /debian/ OK debian.mps.krakow.pl /mirror/debian/ BAD ftp.icm.edu.pl /pub/Linux/debian/ PT Portugal ----------- OK ftp.uevora.pt /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.eq.uc.pt /pub/software/unix/Linux/debian/ /software/unix/Linux/debian/ OK ftp.ua.pt /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ RU Russia --------- OK ftp.chg.ru /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.nick.da.ru /debian/ SE Sweden --------- OK ftp.sunet.se /pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian//pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/ OK ftp.du.se /debian/ /debian/ DOWN ftp1.se.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.se.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ SI Slovenia ----------- OK ftp.arnes.si /packages/debian/ OK ftp.si.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ SK Slovakia ----------- OK ftp.tuke.sk /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.cvt.stuba.sk /pub/os/debian/ OK susy.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk /debian/ /debian/ TR Turkey --------- OK ftp.tr.debian.org /debian/ OK bilmuh.ege.edu.tr /debian/ /debian/ TW Taiwan --------- DOWN ftp.mgt.ncu.edu.tw /Linux/distributions/debian/ OK linux.sinica.edu.tw /pub5/debian/ OK ftp.tku.edu.tw /OS/Linux/distributions/debian/ /OS/Linux/distributions/debian/ US United States ---------------- BAD http.us.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.eecs.umich.edu /debian/ /debian/ BAD llug.sep.bnl.gov /debian/ BAD debian.crosslink.net /debian/ BAD ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu /pub/linux/distributions/debian/ BAD ftp.freesoftware.com /pub/linux/debian/ BAD ftp.us.debian.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.tux.org /pub/distributions/debian/ /pub/distributions/debian/ BAD ibiblio.org /pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ /pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ BAD ftp-mirror.internap.com /pub/debian/ /pub/debian/ BAD ftp.cerias.purdue.edu /pub/os/debian/ /pub/os/debian/ BAD ftp.linuxberg.com /pub/distributions/Debian/ BAD ftp.cs.unm.edu /mirrors/debian/ BAD mirror.cs.wisc.edu /pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ BAD ftp.digex.net /debian/ /debian/ OVERLOADED herbie.ucs.indiana.edu /linux/debian/ BAD debian.tod.net /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.twoguys.org /debian/ BAD ftp.twtelecom.net /pub/mirrors/debian/ BAD natasha.stmarytx.edu /debian/ BAD download.sourceforge.net /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.ndlug.nd.edu /debian/ BAD ftp.linuxvc.com /debian/ BAD debian.uchicago.edu /debian/ /debian/ BROKEN debian.bilow.com /debian/ /debian/ BAD lyre.mit.edu /debian/ BAD carroll.cac.psu.edu /pub/linux/distributions/debian/ BAD debian.fifi.org /pub/debian/ /debian/ BAD debian.gnaps.com /debian/ /debian/ BAD gladiator.real-time.com /linux/debian/ BAD ftp.kernel.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD mirrors.xmission.com /debian/ /debian/ BAD mirrors.rcn.net /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.keystealth.org /debian/ /debian/ BAD debian.lrlug.org / / BAD ftp.stealth.net /debian/ OK ftp.lug.udel.edu /debian/ /debian/ BAD ftp.openrock.net /debian/ /debian/ OK ftp.lameter.com /debian/ /debian/ BAD debian.lcs.mit.edu /debian/ /debian/ ZA South Africa --------------- OK ftp.is.co.za /linux/distributions/debian/ BAD ftp.linux.co.za /pub/distributions/debian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last modified: Sat Jan 27 19:52:13 2001 Number of sites listed: 212 -- This message is hastily written, 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