Re: Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: > However, if QA Group members make 3 consecutive bugfix uploads within two > months, with still no action from the actual package maintainer, then the > package will be marked orphaned, and the 'Maintainer' field of the > package will be set to "Debian QA Group ". I

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marco d'Itri wrote: > This is wrong. main/non-US is still part of main. A couple of people have made that point by now, so I guess I have to admin that technically main would still be consistent. > The CD sold in the US would not be self contained, but having to > download the non expo

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Charles C. Fu wrote: > You're quite right, of course. I had overlooked ex-mode since I don't > use it. (Hmm, it might be nice if vim entered ex-mode automatically > on dumb terminals.) vim defaults to a builtin ANSI terminal these days, which is probably a more reasonable choice consi

Re: Bug#39030: bugs.debian.org: heavy problems with potato: loosing mail!

1999-06-06 Thread Thomas Osterried
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 05:04:38PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > reassign 39030 mutt > severity grave > thanks > > This looks like it may well be the same bug as #31441: dear Thomas, > please could you check if it might be? Have a look at: > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/31/31441.html and let us

Re: Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 01:48:39PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > In the normal development period (when only unstable and stable > > distributions exist), delays are as follows: > > * fix for a critical/grave bug: 2 days > > * fix for any kind of security or important bug: 7

Re: Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Chris Waters
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the normal development period (when only unstable and stable > distributions exist), delays are as follows: > * fix for a critical/grave bug: 2 days > * fix for any kind of security or important bug:7 days > * fix for a bug

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 06, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Proposal to allow software that depends on software in non-us into >> main (currently restricted to contrib). >> ( This may be unnecessary given the recent re-org of non-us. ) > >I'm not sure I like this one. This would mea

Re: Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Josip Rodin
[was it really neccessary to crosspost to three lists?] On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 06:36:58AM -0700, Craig Brozefsky wrote: > > However, if QA Group members make 3 consecutive bugfix uploads within two > > months, with still no action from the actual package maintainer, then the > > package will be

Re: Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Craig Brozefsky
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, if QA Group members make 3 consecutive bugfix uploads within two > months, with still no action from the actual package maintainer, then the > package will be marked orphaned, and the 'Maintainer' field of the > package will be set to "Debian QA G

Quality Assurance Group mini-policy

1999-06-06 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi people, I was told that the general public doesn't really know what is going on on the Quality Assurance Group list, so I'll give you a peak preview of the text we are planning to make our mini-policy. This is not a formal proposal or something (yet), just something that you just might want to

Re: Bug#24772: OLD PROPOSAL] Mailboxes should have perms 600

1999-06-06 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I know the Pine 4.x series has issues with perms on mailboxes. >> This needs to be kept in mind. I think that's permissions on the mailspool directory, not the mailbox itself. >The original submitter asked why 660, owned

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-06 Thread Charles C. Fu
Previously, I wrote: >> If you agree with my traditional usage summary, vim would not be >> suitable because it does not implement open mode and is thus pretty >> unusable on dumb terminals. Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replies: > Yes it would: if you invoke vim as ex, ... hit Q while in v

On the disposition of old policy proposals

1999-06-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/pa/ldebian-policy.html One of the goals of the policy update mechanisms was to eliminate, or at least ameliorate, the tendency for discussions to get bogged down indefinitely on the mailing lists (we do thast quite often ;-) Since Julia

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> I'm not sure I like this one. This would mean that main is Wichert> no longer self-contained, which I would consider a bad Wichert> thing. This is a matter of semantics, but I consider main to be composed of main

Re: Bug#39030: bugs.debian.org: heavy problems with potato: loosing mail!

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
mutt maintainer: is there anything you can do to fix or alleviate this? Julian > Package: bugs.debian.org > Version: 19990606 > Severity: critical > > we have lost 2 mail files in the past 4 days. > > the loss is *very* painful. > > MUA: mutt > ii mutt

Re: FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
> Could sbdy explain me why? > > Why would I need to share this static data among several machines? This > might mave been a concern when dskspace where a problem... Think that this > breaks the idea of a packaging system too. > > And because this breaks the idea of a packaging system (the packa

Re: weekly policy summary, /etc/rc.boot

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
> > > This is not actually true. cnews, console-tools, fidogate, gnomehack, > > > gom, hwtools, kbd, and nethack still install files into /etc/rc.boot. > > > > I believe it to be true in *potato* (but you are right about these > > packages in slink). > > I am also right about these packages in p

Bug#27205: OLD PROPOSAL] daemons should not run as root if possible

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
I second this proposal. Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg

Bug#24772: OLD PROPOSAL] Mailboxes should have perms 600

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
> I know the Pine 4.x series has issues with perms on mailboxes. > > This needs to be kept in mind. The original submitter asked why 660, owned by group mail was needed. This could be part of the reason. Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: weekly policy summary, /etc/rc.boot

1999-06-06 Thread Richard Braakman
Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Joey Hess wrote: > > > Policy still suggests /etc/rc.boot instead of /etc/rcS.d (#32448) > > > * Proposed on 26 Jan 1999 by Brian Servis; seconded by Julian > > > Gilbey. > > > * Change policy to refer to /etc/rcS.d instead of the old > > > /etc/rc.boot/ > > >

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 01:18:35PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Software depending on non-US (#37251) > > * Under discussion. > > * Proposed on 06 May 1999 by Marco d'Itri; seconded by Gordon > > Matzigkeit, Joseph Carter, Chris Waters and Davide G. M. Salvett. > > * Proposal to all

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joey Hess wrote: > Software depending on non-US (#37251) > * Under discussion. > * Proposed on 06 May 1999 by Marco d'Itri; seconded by Gordon > Matzigkeit, Joseph Carter, Chris Waters and Davide G. M. Salvett. > * Proposal to allow software that depends on software in non-us i

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Charles C. Fu wrote: > If you agree with my traditional usage summary, vim would not be > suitable because it does not implement open mode and is thus pretty > unusable on dumb terminals. Yes it would: if you invoke vim as ex, supply the -e option or hit Q while in vim it will switch to

Bug#37262: final version of the new logo needed

1999-06-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 08:57:51PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > Keep in mind that neither GIFs nor TIFFs per se have any problems. It is > > the Lempel-Ziv compression algorithm, which is an optional part of the > > image file formats, that is the problem. > > As I noted in my earlier messag

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Brock Rozen
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 at 01:19, Marco d'Itri wrote about "Re: weekly policy...": > >Daemons should run as root only if really needed (#27205) > > * Old. > > * Proposed by Marco d'Itri. > > * As title; this should be in policy. > Anyone wants to second this? :-) I'll bite. It's definitely wort

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-06-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Software depending on non-US (#37251) > * Stalled for 2 weeks. > * Proposed on 06 May 1999 by Marco d'Itri; seconded by Gordon >Matzigkeit, Joseph Carter, Chris Waters and Davide G. M. Salvett. > * Proposal to allow software that depend

Bug#24772: Possible effects on Pine

1999-06-06 Thread Brock Rozen
I know the Pine 4.x series has issues with perms on mailboxes. This needs to be kept in mind. Brock Rozen

Bug#24067: Thoughts on this proposal

1999-06-06 Thread Brock Rozen
I think that it should be somewhere in policy (wherever the BTS is being discussed; and I know there are proposals out there right now for this) that do not allow for a bug report to be closed unless it has been fixed. We have the system, it allows things to be stored. Even wishlist items should n

Re: FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-06 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > I have been using /usr/share for some time now in all my packages, > > > including ones > > > that were in the slink, release. > > So? > So it's nothing new...? > I for one like /usr/share. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than /usr/lib for > stuff > like pixmaps nad hte like. /usr/share

Re: Bug#38902: PROPOSED] data section

1999-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
> > I'm opposed to putting any binaries in data. > I can agree with this principle, however. It certainly would make the > lines easier to draw. How does blurring a line make it easier to draw? -- see shy jo

Bug#32448: second

1999-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
I second this proposal. -- see shy jo

Re: FHS's /usr/share/*

1999-06-06 Thread Brian Almeida
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 06:41:28PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > I have been using /usr/share for some time now in all my packages, > > including ones > > that were in the slink, release. > > So? So it's nothing new...? I for one like /usr/share. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than /us

Re: [PROPOSAL DRAFT]: editor and sensible-editor

1999-06-06 Thread Chris Waters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles C. Fu) writes: > Personally, I would prefer to change the policy since it makes EDITOR > preferred over VISUAL, which is the reverse of the behavior on my > other systems. Some historical perspective might be useful here. The use of EDITOR is an ancient *NIX tradition

Processed: Labelling accepted amendments

1999-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 38212 [ACCEPTED 1999/05/23] Rewrite of section 5.7 (Programs for the > X Window System) Bug#38212: [AMENDMENT 1999/05/23] Rewrite of section 5.7 (Programs for the X Window System) Changed bug title. > forwarded 38212 debian-policy@lists.debia

Processed: Retitling old policy bugs

1999-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 8221 [OLD PROPOSAL] Add ispell-dictionary to virtual package list Bug#8221: ispell suggests non-existant package Changed bug title. > severity 8221 wishlist Bug#8221: [OLD PROPOSAL] Add ispell-dictionary to virtual package list Severity set to

Re: weekly policy summary, /etc/rc.boot

1999-06-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
> Joey Hess wrote: > > Policy still suggests /etc/rc.boot instead of /etc/rcS.d (#32448) > > * Proposed on 26 Jan 1999 by Brian Servis; seconded by Julian > > Gilbey. > > * Change policy to refer to /etc/rcS.d instead of the old > > /etc/rc.boot/ > > ( No packages in potato still us