Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
> > Something along the lines of > > > > foo-1.2.2-1.2.3alpha-1 > > In which case, this comes out as > > > foo_1.2.2_1.2.3alpha-1 or even foo_1.2.2-1.2.3alpha-1 I obviosly haven't been getting enough sleep. Cheers, Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
> > foo-1.2.2foo-1.2.2-1 > > foo-1.2.2-2 > > foo-1.2.3alpha foo-1.2.2.99.1-1 > > foo-1.2.2.99.1-2 > > foo-1.2.3betafoo-1.2.2.99.2-1 > > fo

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 9:55 pm +0100 "Philip Hands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Philip> The ``put the painful bit after the dash in the debian >> Philip> version'' suggestion is no good I'm afraid, because the >> Philip> orig.tar.gz ends up giving the impression that Debian has the >> Phili

RE: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Patrick Ouellette
> Patrick> I found no mention in the web site's policy manual of > Patrick> version numbering. > > That is because t is in the packaging manual. Debian Policy > Manual is a little bit of a misnomer in that policy is actually > spread over a number of authoritative documents; the packagi

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
> Philip> The ``put the painful bit after the dash in the debian > Philip> version'' suggestion is no good I'm afraid, because the > Philip> orig.tar.gz ends up giving the impression that Debian has the > Philip> release version already, whereas it's just the pre-release > Philip> version with

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm still really vague on what REAL technical objection has been raised to >> actually using (oh, horror!) epochs. Yes, it will remain in the version >> number "forever". So what? Who cares? If the epoch reaches 50, who is >> go

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Patrick" == Patrick Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Patrick> I found no mention in the web site's policy manual of Patrick> version numbering. That is because t is in the packaging manual. Debian Policy Manual is a little bit of a misnomer in that policy is actually spre

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
> I'm still really vague on what REAL technical objection has been raised to > actually using (oh, horror!) epochs. Yes, it will remain in the version > number "forever". So what? Who cares? If the epoch reaches 50, who is > going to notice and care? The reason we use the upstream version numb

RE: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Patrick Ouellette
I found no mention in the web site's policy manual of version numbering. Since it has made the transition to the policy list, I am advocating reviewing the policy (in the packaging manual) for possible changes to solve future problems caused by the packaging of pre-release upstream versions. If p

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Raul Miller
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mostly agree, but the argument that anything to the right of the > dash should only reflect *Debian* related revisions does hold some > water. The question is: is it being used to bail out a maintainer who didn't take other steps to deal with the version

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 02:09:43PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > > > Someone suggested this earlier in the discussion, and someone else pointed > > out that this is clearly against policy, since anything after the '-' should > > reflect debian-specific packa

RE: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Patrick Ouellette
OOPS left should be right. One of these days I'll be able to tell my left and right apart! > -Original Message- > From: Patrick Ouellette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 3:13 PM > To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org > Cc: Debian Developers > Subject: RE: libc6_2.

RE: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Patrick Ouellette
I think a reasonable policy statement for this would be something like: All pre-release versions will have debian revision of -0.x Maintainer release revisions will start at -1 and increment in whole numbers Non maintainer releases will add a point version to the left of the maintainer release

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, my contention is that pre-release are *not* upstream > releases. They can arguably be termed a special release (not an > upstream release) that the debian maintainer has chosen to make. This > is a bit of a stretch, but acceptable, in m

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rob> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I actually like this. I still think that the aversion people >> have for epochs is rather more than is warranted from the technical >> objections (the mandatory longevity _is_ a technic

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Rob Browning
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we simplify it to 2.0.8-0.1 then it should conform to your idea of > policy better, but it doesn't convey as much information as the other form > and it would make them look like non-maintainer releases. Go with the more informative option, and make a

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > Someone suggested this earlier in the discussion, and someone else pointed > out that this is clearly against policy, since anything after the '-' should > reflect debian-specific packaging changes, not upstream changes. > Then I would argue that the polic

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I actually like this. I still think that the aversion people > have for epochs is rather more than is warranted from the technical > objections (the mandatory longevity _is_ a technical objection), but > the -0 approach is elegant. I mostly

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> Brandon Mitchell has come up with a better scheme than my "numbering" Dale> alternative. Consider the following: Dale> 2.0.8pre12.0.8-0pre1 Dale> 2.0.8pre22.0.8-0pre2 Dale> 2.0.8 2.0.8-1 Dale> This has

Re: Provides: emacsen ?

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have a fourth option. Use the Depends: mechanism to make dpkg do the right thing on individual add-on installs (like, if your package strictly depends on another). However, internally, emacsen-common goes the extra mile. Secondly, > So, each emacs add-on package sho

Re: virtual package versions?

1998-06-25 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 05:55:47AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > I took a look at putting virtual package versions into dpkg, and > realized that there were some undefined issues: > > (1) If a package provides a package version and some other package > conflicts with that package version, this would

Re: libtime-period-perl: Doesnt this belong in libs rather than interpreters?

1998-06-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Karl> Q: Do perl libraries belong in `interpreters' or `libs'? There was a suggestion that a new section be created for Perl libraries; and populated with stuff from CPAN. I think that may not be a bad idea. manoj --

Re: libtime-period-perl: Doesnt this belong in libs rather than interpreters?

1998-06-25 Thread paulwade
> Ok, here it is in Debian Policy. > > Q: Do perl libraries belong in `interpreters' or `libs'? Disclaimer - I'm not an official debian developer I would look at the function and purpose of the perl library: Is it strictly for perl (profiling, debugging, etc)? interpreters Is it useful in p

Re: Provides: emacsen ?

1998-06-25 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > May I point out that pkg-order is probqably way overkill for > this, and you just need to find a way to feed the information to, > say, tsort? Of course, that makes emacsen-common kinda depend on > bsdmainutils, but since pkg-order depends on

Re: libtime-period-perl: Doesnt this belong in libs rather than interpreters?

1998-06-25 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Roderick" == Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Roderick> On Sun, 31 May 1998 13:54:51 -0700, "Karl M. Hegbloom" Roderick> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> I think that libtime-period-perl (and other perl modules) >> belongs in `libs', rather than in interpret

Re: Isn't cc the default compiler?

1998-06-25 Thread jdassen
[Moved to -policy] On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:24:02AM +0200, Brederlow wrote: > I compiled a lot of packages on my system and often I see that programms > don't use cc as their compiler. Thus they don't use /etc/alternatives/cc. > > Unless somebody tells me a good reason for not using cc I will o

Debian 2.0: handling of bug updates for stable

1998-06-25 Thread Jens Ritter
Hallo all, Marcello E. Magallon raised this question on -mentors: How should bug updates be handled for the stable version? What is current policy? Shell we keep that? How should we handle it. I see this is has been handled like this, yet: 1) put every update in an ?/stable-updates directory