Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Schwarz wrote: > > My feeling on this is, yes, a single maintainer seems to work best, as in > > the linux kernel model. But why do we have to enforce this in policy? > > Developers should be free to set up any organization they want to maintain > > their packages, as long as it gets the

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rob> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The duplication of a small startup file is not so bad, after all. Rob> Especially if it's a symlink... I had not thught of that. In which case, once the debian-emacs-flavor symb

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The duplication of a small startup file is not so bad, after > all. Especially if it's a symlink... -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 17 Apr 1998, Adam P. Harris wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > I agree that the extra files should *not* be purged > > > > automatically. However,

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-17 Thread Adam P. Harris
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Martin> I don't call changing filenames in original documentation > > Martin> easily maintainable. > > I find this hardly onerous at all. I have a rules file. It was > > set up when I first set up t

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Adam P. Harris
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > I agree that the extra files should *not* be purged > > > automatically. However, dpkg should not forget about them. > > I disagre

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"DGMS" == Davide G M Salvetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DGMS> * Rob => Rob Browning MS => Manoj Srivastava DGMS> Ehr... the bug report I filed was mainly about the mistaken DGMS> load-path, which you already fixed, I would have set `Severity: DGMS> wishlist' otherwise. Maybe I should

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > I agree that the extra files should *not* be purged automatically. > > However, dpkg should not forget about them. > > I disagree. [snip] > > What would dpkg's continued knowledge

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:22:25AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > The reason why I object to the `multi-maintainer' idea is my experience > > with software development: I haven't seen a _working_ example of a > > software program yet, which h

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Schwarz wrote: > > Note, that the Linux kernel is developed by the same procedure: A lot of > > programmers contribute source code, but everything is integrated by a > > single person (Linus). The same holds for Emacs--and probably for most > > oth

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin> I don't call changing filenames in original documentation > Martin> easily maintainable. > > I find this hardly onerous at all. I have a rules file. It was > set up when I first set up the package. This aspect has never needed > to be

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-17 Thread Martin Mitchell
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why? I've had to rename or symlink upstream files in the past to > comply with policy. It takes about one line in debian/rules. How's > that hard to maintain? If you symlink them I'd say that was good. If you rename them, you should also rename any re

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
"Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why couldn't be emacsen-common the package taking care of > debian-emacs-flavor? Could that symbol be set in debian-startup? I probably could be, but IMO, that's not the right place for it. It's the emacs binary package itself that knows wha

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > I agree that the extra files should *not* be purged automatically. > However, dpkg should not forget about them. I disagree. Extrafiles are, the way I see them, files that the package itself takes care of -- files that are crea

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 07:20:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > However, I disagree with the proposed syntax for the extrafiles > control area file. I think the file should contain plain glob > patterns a la fnmatch(3) (with * matching /). I have a couple of concerns with this. - Having * match

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 06:36:28PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marcus> Wow, I feel a document of high value and quality coming > Marcus> up. This is my personal wishlist, as I'm truely an > Marcus> unexperienced programmer:

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:22:25AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > The reason why I object to the `multi-maintainer' idea is my experience > with software development: I haven't seen a _working_ example of a > software program yet, which had multiple _release integrators_ (that's > what I thin

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti
* Rob => Rob Browning * MS => Manoj Srivastava Rob> Assuming I understand you correctly, what about just putting the Rob> psgml and vm startup files in /etc/emacs20/site-start.d and Rob> /etc/emacs19/site-start.d? Then only those versions will see Rob> it. I'll have to check to see what I

Re: Documentation as Software (was Re: PerlDL license)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 16 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Bob" == Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bob> A standard would become meaningless if anyone were allowed to > Bob> modify and circulate it freely. These copyrights are clearly > Bob> appropriate for documents of this type. > > Bob>

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> My feeling on this is, yes, a single maintainer seems to work Joey> best, as in the linux kernel model. But why do we have to Joey> enforce this in policy? Developers should be free to set up any Joey> organization they want to maintain t

Re: Bug#21215: Bad load-path in 50psgml-init.el?

1998-04-17 Thread Mark W. Eichin
Hmm, I just checked, since lisp/startup.el does have: (defconst debian-emacs-flavor 'emacs19 "A symbol representing the particular debian flavor of emacs running. Something like 'emacs20, 'xemacs20, etc.") but it appears that this isn't getting executed. I can think of several reasons for that -

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Philip Hands
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I shall have to think about how far do we go, and how to limit > > the scope of this document. I do not think we can cover secure > > programming, portable programming, introduction to common softeware > > tools, historic bugs, I/O progra

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I shall have to think about how far do we go, and how to limit > the scope of this document. I do not think we can cover secure > programming, portable programming, introduction to common softeware > tools, historic bugs, I/O programming, and

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Schwarz wrote: > Note, that the Linux kernel is developed by the same procedure: A lot of > programmers contribute source code, but everything is integrated by a > single person (Linus). The same holds for Emacs--and probably for most > other packages too. > > The reason why I object to