Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian Jackson wrote: >> Other programs *should* use it. It takes over /dev/audio when it runs, >> because it is a server. Because most programs that use sound have >> their own small server, only one sound program can run at once. With >> the rational you gave, *all* p

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 06:02:54PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann: > > b) Make an additional section either between standard and optional or > > between optional and extra. (Suggestion: "preferred" or "extra", where > > old extra will be renamed to "special" or so). > > > > I don't w

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 06:00:22PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > It looks like lots of people disagree with me on many of these > packages. Oh well. I'm not in principle against moving packages. optional is quite cluttered. But (and please don't take this as an offend) you didn't gave a rational fo

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 18.03.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As I mentioned in a previsou message, I do not like this > trend. I understand people are annoyed at spurious bug reports, but > the goal is to have packages without bugs, and strictly prohibiting > automate

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > mail under those specific circumstances. > > Even for violation by packages o

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Marcus Brinkmann: > b) Make an additional section either between standard and optional or > between optional and extra. (Suggestion: "preferred" or "extra", where > old extra will be renamed to "special" or so). > > I don't want to decide which package should be optional and which > should belong

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Ian Jackson
It looks like lots of people disagree with me on many of these packages. Oh well. The one that Marcus Brinkmann disagrees with that I really want to take issue with is: > >[Ian:] > >> Package: nas Description: The Network Audio System (NAS). (I > >> _believe_ this thing still takes over /dev/audi

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > > Recall, that there was a discussion on this topic between Feb 9 and Feb > > 18, with subject line "awk: essential virtual package?" > > > > We discussed the suggestion that all essential packa

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > James Troup: > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > > mail under those specific circumstances. > >

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 05:26:42PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > In the sprit of submitting bugs that affect a large number of > packages, this should be > > a) discussed on the mailing list, > b) have bugs filed against all packages so that peole may edit the > control

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > I have a few comments on this. > > 2) Lintian bugs: Yes, the maintainer should make sure that the > package passes Lintian checks. If they do not, however, they > should expect to see bugs reported about th

Supporting upstream .tar.bz2

1998-03-19 Thread jdassen
I see more and more software being offered in .tar.bz2 format (e.g. kernel, egcs), which appears to be a lot more space efficient for source code. I'd like to request that our policy wrt sources be extended to accept .tar.bz2 too. (This entails modifying dinstall, dupload, dpkg-source and possibly

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Ian Jackson
James Troup: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > mail under those specific circumstances. > > approval from whom? This mailing list. Ian. -

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 07:35:48PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > 3) Any bug that can be detected by a script or other automated way should > > be > >implemented as Lintian check, because then the check applies also to all > >future versions of the package and all

Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra

1998-03-19 Thread Shaleh
> Ian> Package: gdkimlib-dev Description: Library that allows to display > Ian> images within gdk/gtk > > Ian> Package: gdkimlib0 Description: Library that allows to display > Ian> images within gdk/gtk (That's all of the descriptions, so I'm > Ian> guessing) These are now being required by gnome

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Joey Hess
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > 3) Any bug that can be detected by a script or other automated way should be >implemented as Lintian check, because then the check applies also to all >future versions of the package and all advantages of Lintian come into >play. > For this reason, it is