Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-03-04 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One only needs look at the bug list for one of the peioneering > multi-maintainer packages (namely; dpkg) to think that possibly when > a goup is responsible for a package, in reality no one is > responsible for it. This is IMHO a trite argument as i

Re: Namespace pollution

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
I think that this proposed policy is too strict. It forbids several commands already in widespread use on the system, and it forbids program names from being a single (English?) word, which is unreasonable, in my opinion. Some command names that this policy forbids: (Section 1) GnomeScott Mail M

Re: Clarification of Policy and Packaging manuals requested

1998-03-04 Thread Joey Hess
Ian Jackson wrote: > In fact, it is _configuration files_ and not just conffiles which are > (or should be) removed on purge. You're right. > > 4.2 > > > > The configuration files `/etc/services', `/etc/protocols', and > > `/etc/rpc' are managed by the netbase package and may not be m

Namespace pollution

1998-03-04 Thread Ian Jackson
I propose the following policy: No package shall create without approval any command name (or corresponding manpage): 1. not matching the regexp ^[a-z0-9].. 2. matching ^... if it creates more than two such 3. matching [^-+._,a-z0-9], or 4. which is a single common dictionary word or any directo

Clarification of Policy and Packaging manuals requested

1998-03-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Joey Hess writes, suggesting some places where he feels `configuration file' should read `conffile': > 3.4.2: > > These scripts should not fail obscurely when the configuration files > remain but the package has been removed, as the default in dpkg is to > leave configuration files

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have only passing interest in this topic, but I wanted to point out that on *can* hold people resposible for things even i a volunteer project (I most definitely am responsible for my packages), we merely can not discipline them for failing to meet their responsibilities, apart f

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> I have a compromise proposal that I think will satisfy the needs Ian> of both the `keep the kernel sources out of .deb files' and the Ian> `we must distribute kernel source' people. [proposal deleted] Ok. I can do that, if so de

`Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-03-04 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm afraid I still want to beat this dead horse. I think it is a mistake to think that this requirement is even meaningful. Remember that we are a project of volunteers; things get done by the people who have time, inclination and (hopefully) competence to do them. Requiring that only one perso

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-04 Thread Ian Jackson
I have a compromise proposal that I think will satisfy the needs of both the `keep the kernel sources out of .deb files' and the `we must distribute kernel source' people. The real problem with kernel sources as .deb's is that there is insufficient flexibility within dpkg for dealing with issues t

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-03-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 25.02.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> On 25 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] > >> I would propose that no package keep files in user home directories > >> as a policy.

Re: Please don't remove size info from pkgs.

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Jim" == Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> As intimated to below, I (who has no official vote :) think that Jim> debian packages should have enough information in them to allow Jim> the determination of how much disk space would be used by Jim> installing, or freed by removing, said pack

Please don't remove size info from pkgs.

1998-03-04 Thread Jim
As intimated to below, I (who has no official vote :) think that debian packages should have enough information in them to allow the determination of how much disk space would be used by installing, or freed by removing, said package. To the end that the packages which are selected can all be quer

Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

1998-03-04 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
Manoj Srivastava writes: > Hi, >>> "Luiz" == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luiz> I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to Luiz> post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to Luiz> remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allo

Re: forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Luiz" == Luiz Otavio L Zorzella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luiz> I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to Luiz> post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to Luiz> remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to Luiz> be accomplishe

forwarded message from Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

1998-03-04 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella
I posted this question in debian-user list, and was advised to post in this list, because you have supposedelly just decided to remove from the .deb packages a feature that would allow this to be accomplished. This clue came from Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please also send a copy of the

Re: glibc_2.0.7pre1-3 uploaded to master

1998-03-04 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 06:52:24PM -0600, Rob Browning wrote: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, nothing really, I guess ... Is it not the case that > > once you start using an epoch you can never cease? That 1:1.0.0 > > always is greater than 9.0.0? And the next time

Re: glibc_2.0.7pre1-3 uploaded to master

1998-03-04 Thread Adam Klein
On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 06:48:28PM +, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 10:52:13AM -0500, Christian Hudon wrote: > > > > Ugh. There really should be something in the Policy Manual against using > > 'pre'. It doesn't seem to be a widely known fact, but according to dpkg: > > > >

Re: making room

1998-03-04 Thread Bill Leach
If this is a 'voting' question or a concenses issue, I too would like to be 'counted' as for being able to obtain that information from the package management system. On Tue, Mar 03, 1998 at 05:15:18PM -0800, Jim wrote: > >Is there a way to check how much space a package is using? I looked > >for

Re: glibc_2.0.7pre1-3 uploaded to master

1998-03-04 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, nothing really, I guess ... Is it not the case that > once you start using an epoch you can never cease? That 1:1.0.0 > always is greater than 9.0.0? And the next time it happens the epoch > gets bumped up again. Yep. > Hmm, tha