Re: RFS: dblatex (updated package): 2nd try

2007-12-15 Thread Russ Allbery
e for that. It's a bug in lintian (there's code to not warn about URLs that doesn't work) and will be fixed in a later version. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: alpine_0.999999+dfsg-2_i386.changes REJECTED

2007-12-15 Thread Russ Allbery
patch to Policy that documents the field and submit that as a bug against debian-policy, that would be greatly appreciated and would start the process of including it in Policy. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: proposed new pseudo-package 'debian-mentors' for handling sponsoring requests

2012-01-19 Thread Russ Allbery
e unified diff of a patch is going to be a derivative work in most cases and also won't be redistributable. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: proposed new pseudo-package 'debian-mentors' for handling sponsoring requests

2012-01-19 Thread Russ Allbery
th upload rights. ftpmaster is just checking for mistakes (at the point at which most mistakes are made). The difference for mentors is that the uploaders are not (yet) Debian project members and are not guaranteed to be trained in our licensing policies, and have not agreed to follow our rules

Re: proposed new pseudo-package 'debian-mentors' for handling sponsoring requests

2012-01-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Gilbert writes: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> For the main archive, the NEW check I think is best thought of as a >> spot check to ensure maintainers are doing their jobs.  The real >> responsibility of not uploading non-redistributab

Re: proposed new pseudo-package 'debian-mentors' for handling sponsoring requests

2012-01-20 Thread Russ Allbery
nsidered (if, thankfully, not yet passed), it's probably worth being somewhat paranoid about things that get the official imprimatur of the project. And I'm certainly not a lawyer and this is just my guess. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/

Re: proposed new pseudo-package 'debian-mentors' for handling sponsoring requests

2012-01-20 Thread Russ Allbery
course a whole field of expertise in and of itself. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Flash in debian

2012-01-28 Thread Russ Allbery
d, for example. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: How to convince maintainer to use --as-needed?

2012-02-10 Thread Russ Allbery
e correct dependencies, changes that upstream was completely uninterested in since from their perspective there was no upside and it just made the build system more fragile. I was able to drop a ton of that cruft by switching over to --as-needed. For packages that use Automake and Libtool, dh-autorec

Re: How to convince maintainer to use --as-needed?

2012-02-10 Thread Russ Allbery
ke the build system buggy on other operating systems and is not actually a good idea unless all of the libraries the package uses support a facility like pkgconfig (which is something that upstream is often not in control of). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org

Re: DEP-5 versioned URI / Lintian complains

2012-02-16 Thread Russ Allbery
makes it > hard to look up what they are! The current plan is to release debian-policy with the 1.0 version of this document on February 22nd. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@l

Re: Which git tool should I use?

2012-02-16 Thread Russ Allbery
e-tar, since that will get you started on a good branch layout and workflow without really changing how Git behaves (unlike the more complex patch management tools). Later on, once you're familiar with Git and have a firmer grasp of the tradeoffs, you can consider using one of the more complex ov

Re: debian/rules default

2012-02-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Jerome BENOIT writes: > What should be the default target for debian/rules ? Whatever you want, basically. None of the standard tools ever invoke it with the default target, so it's up to the discretion of the maintainer. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://ww

Re: optional package in Build-Depends (how?)

2012-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Even with valgrind, personally I'd just list a specific set of architectures on which valgrind is required, even if you also opportunistically test for its existence. There's no reason to allow *not* running valgrind tests on i386 and amd64. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: optional package in Build-Depends (how?)

2012-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
and ignore the test failures (if you think they're bugs in the test suite and not the package) if the output is valuable, or don't depend on the tools and skip the tests. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Bug#662632: RFS: libaio-ocaml/1.0~rc1

2012-03-07 Thread Russ Allbery
or maintaining the upstream branch that I want to move to eventually. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

Re: Bug#662632: RFS: libaio-ocaml/1.0~rc1

2012-03-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/debian/git.html > Where were you 2 years ago when I first asked about how to use git when > being both upstream and debian maintainer? :) Posting that site to Planet Debian. :) In Aug

Re: Bug#662632: RFS: libaio-ocaml/1.0~rc1

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Allbery
working directory. It then > remains out of the orig tarballs even if I keep the patch across > upstream releases. Yeah, I did that for a while too when I realized that I really needed a Debian-specific patch. It works, but quilt is really another VCS, and I don't like layering one V

Re: Bug#662632: RFS: libaio-ocaml/1.0~rc1

2012-03-11 Thread Russ Allbery
eam. Looking at it again I think > debian/import-upstream tarball master upstream/x.y > would be correct. Will try that when I find the time to recreate the > repository. Yes, that would work if you want to preserve the history. But since nothing other than pristine-tar is goin

Re: Bug#665658: RFS: org-mode/7.8.06-1.0 [put in ITP, ITA, RC, NMU if applicable]

2012-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
elopers-reference/pkgs.html#nmu Also the wrong version for an NMU of a new upstream release (should be -0.1). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: How to provide a helper script to be sourced by maintainer scripts

2012-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
> does with #DEBHELPER#). Yup, this is what the OpenLDAP packages do for exactly this use case. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&

Re: How to provide a helper script to be sourced by maintainer scripts

2012-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Malte Forkel writes: > Am 25.03.2012 19:21, schrieb Russ Allbery: >> Arno Töll writes: >>> As another alternative which comes me in mind is a pseudo-shared >>> library. You would put the common functions into >>> debian/maintscripts-common and copy its con

Re: Debian-friendly upstream best practices?

2012-03-28 Thread Russ Allbery
the merge, but doesn't send notifications for all the individual commits. I'm not sure why, but I'm not complaining. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Debian-friendly upstream best practices?

2012-03-28 Thread Russ Allbery
bined. The merge approach described in the last paragraph there is now supported natively by the latest git-buildpackage (although I haven't had a chance to test yet). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-me

Re: How to handle embedded javascript/php libraries in WebApps

2012-03-31 Thread Russ Allbery
nd loose coupling right; even Java, which provides a lot of tools to try to get it right, doesn't offer a good ABI versioning system, so if you do have to change the ABI, there isn't a good way of handling the transition.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Russ Allbery
rpg really sufficiently better than than apg's pronounceable password generation algorithm to warrant yet another package? apg uses Morrie Gasser's algorithm from A Random Word Generator For Pronounceable Passwords (National Technical Information Service (NTIS) AD-A-017676). -- Russ Allbery (r

Re: Modifications of the changelog.

2012-04-21 Thread Russ Allbery
that was made in an earlier version, I fix it like any other bug: correct the changelog for that version, and add a note in the changelog for the most recent version that I fixed the documentation bug. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNS

Re: Moving library to Multi-Arch

2012-05-12 Thread Russ Allbery
won't be reached in its entirety. There will be some remnant of non-multi-arch library packages in the wheezy release. > Then all other packages must be removed from testing before freeze, right? No. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/&

Re: SONAME best practice

2012-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
rsioning system. The key requirement of coinstallability of multiple versions of the library is that the library MUST use symbol versioning properly so that the libraries can coexist in memory without tromping on each other. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.

Re: Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
tall that as a documentation file like any other (but don't bother to invent copyright notices for all the people listed there to add to debian/coypright). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-req

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
nd documentation, for example), and it's traditional to have a blank line between each option documented in OPTIONS. The second problem at least can be fixed by just deleting the .PD 0 command (or at least moving it down to the formatting section, if it's still desireable fo

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > * The formatting of the man page isn't great. There are a few places that > seem to have spurious line breaks (the --append documentation, for > example), and it's traditional to have a blank line between each option > documented in OPTIONS.

Re: Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
. It's certainly fine for you to follow stricter standards in your own packages and ask for stricter standards in packages you sponsor, but I'm willing to sponsor the package as-is. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSU

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
it. It's possible that after further discussion my interpretation will be considered wrong by consensus, but as you mention, I think it's a common interpretation by other packagers of GNU software. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
plied in all of my own packaging, and which I had, prior to this thread, assumed was the interpretation that everyone held. We're both on the same page about applying the same standards to sponsoring as one would generally apply to any other package in the archive; I think this is just a disag

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
OK to use the Comment section for David Keppel. Absolutely. And I'm sorry for my tone in some of my earlier messages. I had a really obnoxious week and didn't do a very good job of keeping that out of my tone. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~e

Re: Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Bart Martens writes: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:54:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Bart Martens writes: >>> That "authors" are not the same as "copyright holders" is simply a >>> fact regardless of what debian-policy states. For example, th

Bug#678500: RFS: cppreference-doc/20120620-1 [ITP] -- C and C++ standard library reference manual for English language.

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Ds, so both p12 and Name Surname are identical for the > purposes of identification. The only difference is that it's obvious > that the former is a pseudonym :) For the record, here's the actual policy for DDs: http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2009/07/msg00044.html -- Rus

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Bob Proulx writes: > It was. But then Russ Allbery noted some oddities! :-) I have > addressed those issues with a new package turn. Here is the latest > and greatest: > > http://www.proulx.com/~bob/debian/pool/sid/main/time/2012-06-24/time_1.7-24.dsc > > http:

Bug#677013: RFS: time

2012-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Sandro Tosi writes: > thanks for pinging me. I saw others taking over the additional reviews > of time, so I'm fine with them sponsoring it. Thanks, Sandro! Bob, I've uploaded the latest version. Thank you for your work! -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <h

Re: Moving /home of a package account, and to where?

2012-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
to the documentation through to completion. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: Moving /home of a package account, and to where?

2012-07-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Marc Haber writes: > On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 07:53:04PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> It would indeed be best if everything possible was documented, but very >> few people volunteer to do the work to drive changes to the >> documentation through to completion. > This

Re: Bug#679402:

2012-07-02 Thread Russ Allbery
econd package for changes in a third package just feels like the wrong design to me. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Bug#679402:

2012-07-03 Thread Russ Allbery
e package that holds all that shared stuff between the MySQL packages. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas.

Re: Copyright problems for the opensource reimplementation of a closed-source library (ITP #679504)

2012-07-06 Thread Russ Allbery
elieve is not copyrightable in Europe either. There is some precendent for doing something similar to what you're doing (see readline/editline). Of course, even if what you're doing is perfectly legal, that doesn't prevent someone from suing you anyway. -- Russ Allbery (r...@de

Re: modifications by sponsors

2012-07-11 Thread Russ Allbery
will know next time. I've always taken the time to ask the sponsee first if making the change is okay. Usually people don't mind, and it rarely takes much time to get a response, so it's not much of a delay. I don't know that it's necessarily *required*, but it felt to

Re: Any script to populate debian/copyright file ?

2012-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
e known to be free, is not something that ftpmaster has ever previously required. Unfortunately, there is not good documentation of exactly what's required in copyright files. There are a lot of open bugs against Policy about this. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.or

Re: Any script to populate debian/copyright file ?

2012-07-16 Thread Russ Allbery
sed build system licenses. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://li

Re: RFC: xinetd autoreconf

2012-07-27 Thread Russ Allbery
you can do that by overriding dh_autoreconf and running: dh_autoreconf -- autoconf instead of its default action. That should be safe, since the package doesn't use automake or libtool either, so the other things that autoreconf runs are not relevant to it. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: *.so symlinks in shared lib package

2012-07-27 Thread Russ Allbery
the library shared object version. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5m57gbu@windlord.stanford.edu

Bug#686298: RFS: obnam/1.1-1.1 [NMU] [RC]

2012-08-30 Thread Russ Allbery
ainer is also upstream and this is not a trivial change semantically even if it's small in number of lines changed, it would be good to have Lars be able to review this before pushing it into the archive as an NMU. Lars was posting to debian-devel as recently as last Saturday. Let me copy him

Re: Advice on a new package

2012-08-31 Thread Russ Allbery
ie from your hardening options. For some reason that I've not been able to figure out, PIE causes some really weird problems in some applications. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@

Re: [Aptitude-devel] Rebasing published software and avoid git revert/merge

2012-09-05 Thread Russ Allbery
) > "merged" not in the sense of merging the branch but in the sense of > reimporting it, right? At least I don't see an git-import-orig option > which allows "upstream-source" to be a git branch. git-import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag. It's great. :) I use it

Re: Bug#686679: RFS: asn1c/0.9.21+dfsg-1 [ITP] -- ASN.1 compiler for C

2012-09-07 Thread Russ Allbery
fically to gain the above effect. I would recommend against ever using .dfsg due to the sorting problem with upstream minor versions, since +dfsg is otherwise equivalent. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: pkgkde-gensymbols / Std-Vers: 3.9.4 and § 8.6 for C++ libs

2012-09-20 Thread Russ Allbery
d: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2012-01/007.html http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2012-01/008.html http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2012-02/001.html before going too far down this path. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: shlib-calls-exit and the flex-generated function yy_fatal_error

2012-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Lintian cannot detect), such as this one. There are huge false positive problems with the tag, which is why it's still experimental. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: shlib-calls-exit and the flex-generated function yy_fatal_error

2012-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > * Russ Allbery [121102 19:29]: >> I'm starting to think that we should drop this tag entirely. There are >> a lot of legitimate reasons why shared libraries call exit(), plus >> there are legitimate reasons why shared libra

Re: Bug#665199: fix for rc bug #665199

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Allbery
ve to debdiff the *.dsc files. The devscripts package has an nmudiff script that automates much of this procedure. (I'm listed as a comaintainer for openldap but haven't had any time to work on the package for quite some time, unfortunately. I should really probably remove myse

Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debian packages

2012-11-05 Thread Russ Allbery
TS ? I use Bugs: mailto: as a source package header in debian/control instead. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debian packages

2012-11-06 Thread Russ Allbery
publicly archived (including the email address of the submitter). Detected character set: UTF-8 Please change your locale if this is incorrect. Using 'Russ Allbery ' as your from address. Getting status for svnlog... Checking for newer versions at madison... Will use mailto pr

Re: jquery.js from Doxygen in documentation, what to do about it

2012-11-23 Thread Russ Allbery
ht now, I think the best thing for the Doxygen *clients* to do is just ignore this issue. It may need a bug against doxygen, though (and possibly some help for the Doxygen maintainer). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: git-buildpackage: can it recreate the orig.tar.gz without the pristine-tar?

2012-12-03 Thread Russ Allbery
ept your new uploads. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uf696xv@windlord.stanford.edu

Re: dh 7 broken by design?

2009-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
this isn't the right solution, since it also breaks invoking debian/rules as a makefile instead of as an executable. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: dh 7 broken by design?

2009-02-17 Thread Russ Allbery
s, that's how it's looking now. > You should then take Russ Allbery's comment into account: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:06:09PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> If the -B flag is necessary, this will require a change in Debian Policy; >> currently, the above arguably v

Re: dh 7 broken by design?

2009-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Joey Hess writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> I really think this is a bug in make. > > Probably, but who knows. It could just be a misfeature on which ghod > knows what somehow depends. > > .PHONY: precompiled-binary-we-cannot-regenerate-with-gcc.o It feels like the

Re: RFS: libpam-paperauth

2009-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
r another platform where shared libraries require PIC to see the problem. Lintian should also warn about this, though, even on i386. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: best practice for updating inetd.conf with a user-chosen port?

2009-03-12 Thread Russ Allbery
support IPv6, and inetd can already do all that for you. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: substvar-source-version-is-deprecated

2009-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Version} or ${source:Version} as appropriate (introduced in dpkg 1.13.19, released with etch). Support for ${Source-Version} may be removed from dpkg-dev in the future. Is that still unclear? -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSU

Re: Fixing old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

2009-03-19 Thread Russ Allbery
GPL 2 and GPL 3, Eduardo is correct and the address portion is not part of the notices that the GPL requires be maintained. > If it is not required to be verbatim in ‘debian/copyright’, then why > include it at all? I don't see any reason to do so at the moment. -- Russ Allbery (r...@d

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Russ Allbery
ue to a non-free build-dependency. That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free things that can't be built or used without non-free bits. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentor

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Chow Loong Jin writes: > On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free >> things that can't be built or used without non-free bits. > I'm actually considering using a postinst script to tel

Re: Why the maintainer bother to use set -e instead of #!/bin/sh -e for all maintainer scripts?

2009-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
with sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postinst, and then it doesn't exit on error, it's surprising and can be dangerous. It's an unusual situation, which is why it's only tagged with --pedantic. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle

Re: double slash

2009-04-01 Thread Russ Allbery
) instead of: $(DESTDIR)$(prefix) I used to write my makefiles that way too. It's hard to shake the feeling that there should be a slash in there. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-re

Re: double slash

2009-04-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Chow Loong Jin writes: > Looking at where the extra / is, I'd think more like: > > pkgincludedir = $(includedir)/slv2 > > rather than > > pkgincludedir = $(includedir)slv2 Oh, hm, good point. In that case, it is a little odd that $(includedir) has a

Re: RFS: kio-ftps (updated package)

2009-04-18 Thread Russ Allbery
it's fine to omit the version number if you expect not to need it. I plan on starting to omit the version number after dfsg in the next upstream release for some of my repackaged source packages where the repackaging has been stable for quite some time. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: RFS: docutils-writer-manpage 0.1~svn.r5690-2, urgency=medium

2009-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
end to add overrides for info-level tags. It's only pedantic tags that I recommend against overriding. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Lintian question

2009-04-21 Thread Russ Allbery
o remove the override again and in some cases it can hide other problems that are real. We in turn try to fix bugs quickly, although I've been swamped lately so the pace of releases has dropped. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> --

Re: questions regarding libmimelib1 as seperate source package

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Allbery
added explicit nul termination for all strings as an additional line of code when making that change, correct? (I personally prefer to ship a replacement strlcpy function rather than using strncpy, since the strncpy semantics are rather broken.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: questions regarding libmimelib1 as seperate source package

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Allbery
strlen("\r\n"). That code is safe from a buffer overflow perspective using strlcpy and strlcat, but may not end the buffer with \r\n. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: questions regarding libmimelib1 as seperate source package

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Allbery
re.ac and then include LTLIBOBJS in the list of objects that go into the shared library in your Makefile.am. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&q

Re: Question about README.source

2009-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
; ftp.cpp~ > ftp.h~ > ftp.protocol~ > README~ > rfc4217.txt > " I'd put that information in debian/copyright instead. (What you have sounds fine, or you could just say that you removed rfc4217.txt for DFSG reasons and, since you were repackaging the source anyway

Re: mimelib 1.1.2 packages: strlcpy/strlcat vs. strcpy/strcat

2009-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
t unfortunately doesn't help unless you're writing kernel modules. That's an implementation inside the kernel only for code running inside the kernel; it isn't available to normal programs. I just provide replacement implementations of strlcpy and strlcat with all of the softwar

Re: Documenting new upstream version in ‘debian /changelog’

2009-04-27 Thread Russ Allbery
etty bad, either including way more details than the average user cares about or including almost nothing. I'm with Ben; I try to summarize major changes for all of my packages that are likely to affect users in the Debian changelog. I don't always manage, but I try. -- Russ Allbery

Re: On the quest for automated QA checks

2009-05-02 Thread Russ Allbery
his. That being said, there's already a wishlist bug against Lintian to check for this at the --pedantic level. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: On the quest for automated QA checks

2009-05-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Rogério Brito writes: > I'd like to make it clear that I'm just brainstorming here and that at > this stage, I'm not really concerned with the feasibility of the ideas. > I'm just doing a "what if" thing. Oh, sure, totally understood. > On May 02 20

Re: Lintian clean?

2009-05-03 Thread Russ Allbery
tags can be a little annoying. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Lintian clean?

2009-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Patrick Matthäi writes: > Russ Allbery schrieb: >> Given that anyone can upload packages to mentors, this seems like a >> fairly worrisome security risk. > Why that? It may be implemented as the current Debian buildd network. > OpenSuSE is also providing such a buildd se

Re: Lintian clean?

2009-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
binary packages but throw > them away so I'd like to have mentors do something similar. This seems like a good idea to me too. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: RFS: gnus -- A versatile news and mail reader for Emacsen

2009-05-11 Thread Russ Allbery
rit to keeping a package of the newer code available to people who specifically need newer versions. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: change glib-config to pkgconfig in configure.in

2009-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
etter to say: PKG_CHECK_MODULES([PKGNAME], [glib]) AC_SUBST([PKGNAME_CFLAGS]) AC_SUBST([PKGNAME_LIBS]) It doesn't matter until one day it does and you get bizarre and obscure error messages and corrupted shell scripts and spend hours trying to figure out why. -- Russ Allb

Re: RFS: gnus -- A versatile news and mail reader for Emacsen

2009-05-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Rogério Brito writes: > On May 11 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Just to double-check: did you already know the background on this? >> The gnus Debian package is not really recommended for most users. >> Most users of Gnus are probably better off not installing the gnus

Re: How to get rid of dir-or-file-in-var-run?

2009-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Check the contents of your package. For some reason, the package still contains the directory even though you've removed it from debian/dirs. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: Both dpkg-source -x foo.dsc and lintian seems to ignore trustedkeys.gpg keyring

2009-05-24 Thread Russ Allbery
rror. next if /^Record size =/; next if /^Skipping to next header/; -next if /^gpg: /; +next if /^gpgv?: /; next if /^secmem usage: /; next if /^Exiting with failure status due to previous errors/; tag $tag, $

Re: how to check for binary compability?

2009-05-25 Thread Russ Allbery
moved: DwString::operator[](unsigned long) which was present in the previous version. Is this also an internal symbol or was it part of the published API? -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: how to check for binary compability?

2009-05-27 Thread Russ Allbery
ional (and can be tricky with C++ since the symbol names can vary per architecture). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: ITR: febootstrap

2009-05-27 Thread Russ Allbery
lready knows it exists are likely to want to use this package. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: ITR: febootstrap

2009-05-27 Thread Russ Allbery
y unused SASL implementation, or Shishi (an interesting Kerberos implementation, but 99% of users will want either MIT or Heimdal instead). -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: ITR: febootstrap

2009-05-28 Thread Russ Allbery
, I agree. I wouldn't go to people in general and ask them to make their packages priority: extra. I was only questioning because you'd said to raise the priority from extra to optional, and this didn't seem like a package where we'd want to make a special effort to move it i

Re: Problem with dpkg-shlibdeps

2009-06-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Simply calling dh_installdeb before dh_shlibdeps fixed it; it wasn't me > who wrote that debian/rules and I have no idea whether it used to work. It looks like dh runs dh_shlibdeps before dh_installdeb, so I would have expected more people to run into this. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: Problem with dpkg-shlibdeps

2009-06-18 Thread Russ Allbery
directory already exists (I can't find a mkdir anywhere and it writes to the shlibs file there), and I can't figure out where earlier in the calling sequence the DEBIAN directory would be made. Clearly I'm missing something -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) <h

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