Re: shc -- #335278 broken packaging -- non-DD NMU prepared

2006-07-25 Thread Russ Allbery
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 15 July 2006 03:48, Russ Allbery wrote: >> lintian warns if you do an NMU without mentioning it in the changelog, >> but although it has the necessary information to do so, it doesn't do >> the inverse. Com

Re: changelog.Debian.gz as a symbolic link

2006-07-25 Thread Russ Allbery
eats this an error (The > package contains no changelog.Debian.) I've cleaned up the handling of changelog files that are symlinks in lintian for the next release. It was doing a few weird things that resulted in unhelpful warnings that didn't talk about the actual problem.

Re: Jabbin packages now available, need fixing+sponsor

2006-08-04 Thread Russ Allbery
ppen again and can gather some sort of trace information of what it thought it was doing, that would be great fodder for a bug report. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Re: When to close a bug tagged 'will not fix'?

2006-08-06 Thread Russ Allbery
erves as useful documentation for other bug filers to keep from getting duplicate bugs, or if leaving the bug open and tagged avoids pointless arguments that you'd have to go through if it were just closed. If none of those cases apply, I'd just close it. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Override disparity

2006-08-07 Thread Russ Allbery
quently just what new users want, and new users are the ones who frequently won't know to look in some other section or use apt-cache to search for a separate doc package. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: How to write a good manpage ?

2006-08-17 Thread Russ Allbery
7;m biased since I maintain Pod::Man.) It means a build dependency on Perl, but the POD syntax is very simple and quick to learn. man perlpod and man pod2man should get you started. For examples of POD manual pages, see several of the packages I maintain (remctl, libpam-krb5, kftgt,

Re: Override disparity

2006-08-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I prefer putting them in the same section as the main package so that >> people browsing by section in aptitude will actually see them. > I don't like this philosophie. Th

Re: How to register manpages?

2006-08-31 Thread Russ Allbery
There is an index that's built to support man -k, but that index is generally built nightly from cron, not through an action of the installed package. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Packaging automation - separation of 'debian/' directory

2006-09-06 Thread Russ Allbery
sion control as part of the package build process. A big part > of (my) testing is attempting a build of the package from the working > copy of the source, *before* committing the latest changes to version > control. Yup, you can do this from inside your regular working directory, and only use

Re: Packaging automation - separation of 'debian/' directory

2006-09-06 Thread Russ Allbery
. That's what I do, and then I have a script that pulls the latest release, untars it, checks out the debian directory, and uses pbuilder to build the final packages. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Error with dh_gencontrol

2006-09-19 Thread Russ Allbery
d line with whitespace.) Policy allows dependency lines to be wrapped now in the debian/control file. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFS: drapes (updated)

2006-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
ngelog.gz rather than > NEWS.gz, but I'm not sure that is necessary. See Policy 12.7. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFS: drapes (updated)

2006-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
. :) Yeah, that's generally what I do as well, and install NEWS as NEWS.gz. So it sounds like you're doing things the right way. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of &quo

Re: How do you include orig with pbuilder?

2006-09-28 Thread Russ Allbery
builder? pdebuild --debbuildopts -sa -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: aspell-uz: new upstream release (0.6.0)

2006-10-04 Thread Russ Allbery
s, I think lintian is at fault here and needs to exclude files in /var/lib/aspell to this check. So I don't think you need to do anything in your package. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: aspell-uz: new upstream release (0.6.0)

2006-10-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Mashrab Kuvatov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Based on those bugs, I think lintian is at fault here and needs to >> exclude files in /var/lib/aspell to this check. So I don't think you >> need to do anything in your package. > Do you

Re: Depending on an essential package

2006-10-30 Thread Russ Allbery
es/splits/merges.) ...thus making the dependency on the old package an RC bug (eventually), meaning that omitting dependencies on essential packages *prevents* RC bugs. :) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Using the user nobody in my package

2006-11-15 Thread Russ Allbery
ser as well. Ideally, I would do something a bit more complex where the Apache code hands files off to a separate daemon running as a dedicated user for your package, which then audits what Apache is trying to do and then puts the files in an appropriate place with the correct ownership. Hope th

Re: Using the user nobody in my package

2006-11-15 Thread Russ Allbery
big issue. I think you have to distinguish between control-panel software performing edits at the request of a user, in which case they're just a form of editor, and control-panel software modifying configuration files for its own purposes. The latter I think should still be for

Re: RFS: fvwm-icons -- XPMs icons from fvwm development site

2006-11-22 Thread Russ Allbery
e sure we "do > the right thing fromt eh beginning". Yeah, info-priority messages are filling this need for right now, and this one is already info-priority. Eventually this will get better. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -

Re: Why info files need to be named info-*.gz?

2006-12-01 Thread Russ Allbery
they should be compressed with gzip -9. If they're compressed but don't end in .gz, wouldn't lots of stuff break? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: RFS: uebimiau

2006-12-01 Thread Russ Allbery
ut this is > because, due to the way fakeroot was used, which means that the chgrp > and chmod commands in your debian/rules did not have any effect. I suspect dh_fixperms cleaning up after the fact rather than anything related to fakeroot. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) &l

Re: Why info files need to be named info-*.gz?

2006-12-02 Thread Russ Allbery
specific reason why they don't have standard names like all the other info files in /usr/share/info? I presume that they should actually be called jed.gz, jed-1.gz, jed-2.gz, and jed-3.gz.) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Opinions on CDBS amongst sponsors

2006-12-11 Thread Russ Allbery
binary packages in debian/control just right. > Do those who dislike CDBS also all use dpkg-buildpackage in full or is > debuild "better" somehow? You're really comparing apples to kumquats here; CDBS and debuild are completely unrelated. You can use either debuild or dpkg-b

Re: Homepage-field in description

2006-12-13 Thread Russ Allbery
o. There's a proposed patch that I'm not horribly happy with because I'm worried that it's too aggressive, and I haven't had a chance to think more about it and revisit it. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- T

Re: Recurring "please do" patterns in debian-mentors

2007-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
l the style check functionality has been added since they're really more minor even than I:. In other words, feel free to submit a wishlist lintian bug for things like this. I'm going to pull up all of those once the style check facility is available. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTEC

Re: When to call debconf-updatepo and when not?

2007-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
n the format that it likes). It sometimes does other stuff, like change the line numbers in the po files (to things that don't look like line numbers) and word-wrap translations, so you can get unimportant diffs between builds by running it as part of the build. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Tone-of-voice used by sponsors

2007-01-14 Thread Russ Allbery
e who want him for a sponsor have to do things his way; people who don't want to do that are certainly no worse off than if Daniel wasn't sponsoring anything at all. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SVN snapshot versioning

2007-01-23 Thread Russ Allbery
onfused, well, that's what epochs are for. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: native packages

2007-01-23 Thread Russ Allbery
ave a tool that I use to do all of this, for which I need to write some documentation so that I can release it to the world.) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SVN snapshot versioning

2007-01-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In other words, use + if you're packaging >> that version plus some additional upstream modifications, and use >> + if you're packaging an alpha or beta arelease >

Re: A problem with dh_strip

2007-02-08 Thread Russ Allbery
e CAML binaries. There's a special exception in lintian for them. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Must a source package's shared libraries always be spit into separate binary packages?

2007-02-19 Thread Russ Allbery
better to do just do that. The transition issues aren't difficult when the binaries all come from the same source package, and it saves a lot of headaches. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Must a source package's shared libraries always be spit into separate binary packages?

2007-02-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 05:03:47PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Yes, installing the libraries in /usr/lib. > For such packages with libraries without sonames, one should just make > something up? If the library is not suitable to

Re: Where to mention, when several tarballs are merged into one .orig.tar.gz

2007-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
ntence or maybe a paragraph, which is a bit short to warrant a separate file. I'll open a wishlist bug against developers-reference. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: packages for netcdf 3.6.2 (released today)

2007-03-08 Thread Russ Allbery
package and that's the only binary package produced by the netcdf-doc source package, netcdf-doc will be removed from the archive semi-automatically without any further action by the maintainer required. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: RFS: isomaster

2007-03-17 Thread Russ Allbery
case, I bet you're looking for dh_installchangelogs and specifically for passing CHANGELOG.TXT as an argument to it. (This assumes you're using debhelper; if not, you'll need to do it another way.) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle

Re: odd response from lintian

2007-03-18 Thread Russ Allbery
n. It should be requiring the /usr/share/pixmaps path now for unqualified icon pathnames. However, that doesn't explain why you're getting that message, since lintian does check in /usr/share/pixmaps (even though the long description of the tag is wrong). Are you sure the icon is p

Re: odd response from lintian

2007-03-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, that doesn't explain why you're getting that message, since >> lintian does check in /usr/share/pixmaps (even though the long >> description of the tag i

Re: Using debconf to notify of serious postinst problems

2007-03-23 Thread Russ Allbery
ng the input causes a lintian warning. Other people have given you good suggestions, but I did want to mention that the lintian warning is just because lintian can't easily tell the difference between valid uses of debconf in postinst and prompting in postinst instead of config.

Re: Where to mount a temporary partition in scripts?

2007-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
/xen (or perhaps /srv/xen) and perhaps provide some configuration that makes it simple for the sysadmin to do so. For the FHS reasons, it shouldn't be the default (perhaps the admin is already using /xen for something completely different), but if the admin *chooses* to put them there, there&

Re: Where to mount a temporary partition in scripts?

2007-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> If I were you, I'd document in README.Debian how the administrator can >> mount the images in /xen (or perhaps /srv/xen) and perhaps provide some >> configuration that makes it simple for the sy

Re: manpage tools

2007-03-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What tools do you prefer for writing manpages (e.g. for commands that > lack one from upstream)? I use POD and pod2man. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Adding quilt to the new maintainer guide.

2007-04-13 Thread Russ Allbery
> utilities as soon as the w&p source format is used. Even if you don't use quilt to apply the patches at build time, using the quilt utilities to construct the patches is still a good idea. I've never seen anything that can manage a set of patches as smoothly

Re: When should versionned dependancies be dropped ?

2007-04-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Is there benefit in retaining them? There are some fairly fundamental ones there, such as a lot of the versioned debconf dependencies and the cases where one can't use debconf-2.0 because features were introduced after that point. But if all of the stable providers of debconf-2.0 provide

Re: RFS: proda

2007-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
he next upload. It needed to be smarter about the places where *roff uses '-' as part of escapes and commands. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question about Debian doc-base

2007-05-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Files line (which can be continued like a mail header if need be). Other than that, yes, this is correct. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question regarding dpkg files

2007-05-22 Thread Russ Allbery
ip and permissions properly in the package. Debian's package build process, unlike RPMs, doesn't rely on the spec file to handle ownership of files. Just chown the files as appropriate in debian/rules and Debian's package building software will preserve that ownership. -

Re: getting the version of a package in the rules file.

2007-05-29 Thread Russ Allbery
ersion := $(shell dpkg-parsechangelog | grep ^Version: \ | cut -d' ' -f2 | cut -d- -f1) I'm guessing the problem with the Perl one-liner is that you need to double the $ in $1 since you're inside make. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://ww

Re: Advice on packaging SAGE

2007-05-31 Thread Russ Allbery
censes may not require citing authors, and in fact many DFSG-free licenses require that one preserve copyright statements or authorship information. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: Advice on packaging SAGE

2007-05-31 Thread Russ Allbery
on licenses in Debian. The four-clause BSD license is not a particularly good idea, but I believe it's always been considered DFSG-free. Or am I missing some subtlety of your argument? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBS

Re: Advice on packaging SAGE

2007-05-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe this is not the interpretation being applied by the > ftpmasters, who are the final authorities on licenses in Debian. The > four-clause BSD license is not a particularly good idea, but I believe > it's always been cons

Re: ITS: homebank

2007-05-31 Thread Russ Allbery
eference and either is specifically allowed in Debian Policy. The fourth revision number is supposed to be only for non-normative changes, and hence the argument is that it's not useful information for package control files. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie

Re: Advice on packaging SAGE

2007-05-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:01:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Why? I don't see anything in the DFSG that says that licenses may not >> require citing authors, and in fact many DFSG-free licenses require >> that one

Re: -xpm or -noxpm

2007-06-02 Thread Russ Allbery
sure why GD does that. Maybe because Xpm support requires linking in X libraries, which makes the dependency chain heavier? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Where does /usr/bin/rename come from ?

2007-06-13 Thread Russ Allbery
> Can I use it safely for building a package since I can not build-depend > on it and it does not seem to be contained in an essential package ? You do need a build-depends since prename is provided by perl, not perl-base. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyri

Re: shared libraries and _REENTRANT

2007-06-24 Thread Russ Allbery
that it's only needed to get prototypes for a few functions that aren't prototyped otherwise. That would imply that if your software is building without undeclared function warnings, you don't need it. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.o

Re: A note on lintian clean packages and mentors.d.n

2007-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
s much as possible before each upload. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A note on lintian clean packages and mentors.d.n

2007-07-02 Thread Russ Allbery
asks linda > and lintian differ on. A lot of people file the bug against one package and then clone it and reassign the clone to the other. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: OpenBook (O'Reilly) packing or Debian

2007-07-09 Thread Russ Allbery
o tell if the package can go in main or non-free. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenBook (O'Reilly) packing or Debian

2007-07-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For example: >> >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html >> >> has the GFDL appended to the book, but I see no explicit statement that >> t

Re: RFS: vegastrike and vegastrike-data (updated packages)

2007-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
h editing mechanism just feels more natural than dpatch's. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sponsor Checklist

2007-07-31 Thread Russ Allbery
installed on the system for this check to work, so the output of this check will change depending on what packages you have installed. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
in UTF-8, that's great, but a quick test seems to indicate it still doesn't work even if you run groff -T utf8 in a UTF-8 locale. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
page for more details. However, I don't know if this will work for Asian characters. It's the best solution for European characters, but a quick skim doesn't show a way to enter an arbitrary UTF-8 code point. So, not good. :/ It might be worth raising this on debian-devel,

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
that groff's handling of multibyte characters needed to be reworked entirely. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
d to do this for 2.0, but the work is mostly stalled. groff can apparently produce UTF-8 *output*, but I think the encodings of all of its input at the moment are in other character sets. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-13 Thread Russ Allbery
can probably make without backward compatibility issues right now, since currently those code points are disallowed. I'd love to see this dealt with for lenny. I just don't know how realistic that is. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: stripping by upstream

2007-08-13 Thread Russ Allbery
ve -s from install if upstream puts such things into makefile variables. If they don't, you have to patch the Makefile. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-13 Thread Russ Allbery
pecific Asian encodings and works okay for them, but possibly not for arbitrary UTF-8. I wonder if that's what Red Hat uses or if they transcode as well and just lose on man pages that contain non-European characters. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~

Re: RHS: libterm-ansicolor-ruby

2007-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
y (I haven't looked at it). For a one-off module that we put together on a whim, the Perl module has been amazingly popular, seems to be used all over the place, and is now included in Perl core, so there's some indication that people really do like having this sort of functionality. -

Re: Man pages and UTF-8

2007-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
\x{AC00}-\x{D7A3} \x{FF01}-\x{FF60}); but even that is not a particularly good approximation compared to using the real table. My guess is that wcwidth's answer is based on the latest version of that table at the time that glibc released, although I'd have to double-check to be

Re: unable to build gdb from source

2007-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
> somebody wants to rebuild the archive and find out? It's a bug that's annoying to try to fix and probably not worth the effort. make *really* doesn't like spaces in filenames in various contexts. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~ea

Re: RHS: libterm-ansicolor-ruby

2007-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
library seems entirely reasonable to me. It is a standard, and it's not like they change or are system-dependent. Yes, there are terminals that don't implement those standards. How many of them are used by anyone other than hobbyists as part of computer archeology? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL

Re: RHS: libterm-ansicolor-ruby

2007-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
The Fungi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:38:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > (no point in hardcoding "a few dozen string" definitions, unless one >> > _likes_ the

Re: RFS: xawtv (updated package)

2007-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
deo0 -o ' You can ignore these; they'll go away with the next release of Policy. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License issues with md5deep

2007-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
f true and sort of not. That code itself is not covered by copyright, but any derivative work that you create from it is still covered by your copyright. And that's fine. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Advice on HTML docs

2007-09-03 Thread Russ Allbery
n. I think the only problem may be that the note isn't in the place they looked. I have a package with a similar problem (openafs-doc) and it was approved, but I put the note to that effect in debian/copyright, which is the file that the ftp-masters review for these sorts of issues and which is t

Re: RFS: drpython (updated package)

2007-09-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > what is LP: #96014? LP numbers are usually Launchpad bugs (in Ubuntu's system). -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
non-free, as it says in the Policy document. It's a perfectly reasonable question. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can you show the location where that's stated? Did you try searching the table of contents for "non-free" and following the link? It's section 2.2.3. See also the last sentence of section 2. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PR

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
private libraries for the binaries built by this package rather than trying to use them as first-class shared libraries. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-10-01 Thread Russ Allbery
rstand the situation well enough to really recommend something. How big are each of these packages? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-10-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Nikolaus Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 05:35:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> While with non-free software you can't really change the binaries, you >> definitely *can* change the packaging structure however you'd like. >> Doe

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-10-03 Thread Russ Allbery
ame, but I > could just hard-code the library dependency and be done with it. There > would be no shlibs file. Again no problem, right? That's my take, yes. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-10-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Nikolaus Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:57:06AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> It would require that you make modifications to the upstream source, >> probably. So will lots of other things, though. The only packages for >> which I don

Re: How package a binary library with unversioned soname?

2007-10-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Nikolaus Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:51:41AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Nikolaus Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Doesn't dumping several upstream tarballs in one Debian source package >>> require something l

Re: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath error message

2007-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
ms for multilib. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: lintian .packlist warning and debian/rules modification

2007-10-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The debhelper tools (dh_install) used to use debian/tmp but now > (depending on DH_COMPAT) use debian/$package. So this is a small-ish > lintian bug. I've changed the lintian message to use debian/ instead. -- Russ Allbe

Re: su-wrapper in desktop/menu files

2007-12-01 Thread Russ Allbery
rapper, and some time, someone > will have to proper massbugfil about that.. Could you file a wishlist bug against lintian to add a check for this, including a rationale for why one shouldn't use gksu or kdesu directly? -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http:/

Re: policy for file headers

2007-12-03 Thread Russ Allbery
the whole package in the package documentation, you can safely assume any unmarked files are also released under that copyright and license. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rpath issue on 64 bit architectures

2007-12-03 Thread Russ Allbery
ght that are the problem is related to the symlink... The problem is that libtool doesn't think that lib64 is on the regular library search path and hence decides that it needs to add rpath, which is broken at several different levels but best avoided by just using lib. -- Russ Allb

Re: rpath issue on 64 bit architectures

2007-12-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Francesco Namuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Il giorno 04/dic/07, alle ore 01:23, Russ Allbery ha scritto: >> The problem is that libtool doesn't think that lib64 is on the regular >> library search path and hence decides that it needs to add rpath, which >>

Re: rpath issue on 64 bit architectures

2007-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
"Leo \"costela\" Antunes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are you sure? Check out package 'transmission', it's been using chrpath > for the last 3 releases (IIRC) without issues on any arch (at least > according to lintian.debian.org). lintian.debi

Re: yes, GPL means GPL3 today... (Re: RFS: gnome-color-chooser)

2007-12-13 Thread Russ Allbery
whether only that version is permissable or whether the "or later" part is available. (The exception is GPL v1, which isn't in common-licenses; in that case, right now, I think the best course of action is to treat the software as under GPL v2 for Debian's purposes. There isn't

Re: RFS: colordiff

2007-12-13 Thread Russ Allbery
rwise testing. It's arch: all, so it shouldn't pull in a lot of other packages. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: yes, GPL means GPL3 today... (Re: RFS: gnome-color-chooser)

2007-12-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Agreed. I think debian/copyright should always refer to the exact >> version of the GPL that the package says it's covered under and then >> document whether only that

Re: RFS: colordiff

2007-12-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Dave Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Yes, I do run lintian (and linda), but the spare machine I used to >>> build the packages was running Lenny at the tim

Re: yes, GPL means GPL3 today... (Re: RFS: gnome-color-chooser)

2007-12-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 12:04:48PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> I think the best way is to include the license text in >>> debian/copyright just like any other license that is not in >>> common-licenses. >>

Re: yes, GPL means GPL3 today...

2007-12-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:44:39PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> So my original statement that not many packages are in that situation >> is kind of true and kind of not, depending on how you feel about the >> Perl situation. (I

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