Re: Installing symbolic links

.deb created correctly by the make install? Or am I missing something? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg

Re: dh_suidregister -> ?

t this is really dangerous, so the default is non-suid, but the sysadmin could choose to change it if desired. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux

Re: dh_suidregister -> ?

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:58:24PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > Julian Gilbey: > > > But in cases where the only meaningful installation was suid or sgid (for > > example, /bin/su), the deb always held a suid or sgid binary. > > Hmmm, so my use of suidregister/dpkg-st

Re: deleting uploads via queue

s files on ftp-master. (I don't off-hand remember where they are kept, though.) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://peo

Re: deleting uploads via queue

ackages that has never before been > in debian (except for incoming, obviously)? Yes, and send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say what you've done and why. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Math

Re: dh_suidregister -> ?

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:11:31AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > Julian Gilbey: > > > If the binary must be setgid, then you should just chown/chmod the > > binary. If it could be used not-setgid, then use statoverride. > > It can be used non-setgid if the sysadmin is

Re: How to move package from main to contrib

oad a new version. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: How to move package from main to contrib

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 05:43:51PM +, James Troup wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I have packaged vpopmail and put it into main section of Debian. Then > > > somebody reported that it depends on qmail and hence it should be moved &

Re: dpkg-statoverride and creating users in postinst

dmin has added the override or the package has. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free fo

Re: Could someone clarify dpkg-statoverride please? (Was Re: dpkg-statoverride and creating users in postinst)

-add command, and then that becomes the default from then on. Dpkg will automatically examine the statoverride file every time a package is installed to see whether there are any local statoverrides; you don't need to do anything in your maintainer scripts any longer. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Build-Depends

d apply to the depends line. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Build-Depends

will still know what to do with > /my/ package. That is absolutely correct, and what policy dictates on this matter. > If, OTOH, you only need B because A is linked to it, then only A belongs in > your Build-Depends list. Correct. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Package checking

endencies depends on them. The reason is that dependencies change, and you should list only those _you_ need. What others need is their business. Hopefully this will answer your question. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: /etc/ question

maintainer scripts are run. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world

Re: I can't sign .dsc file

a look at the debsign docs! Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ --

Re: Policy and conffile editing

ve bugs filed against them. Because otherwise, every time the package is upgraded, the sysadmin will be asked to check the changes unnecessarily. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Uni

Re: /etc/ question

On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 10:42:38PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:57:33PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > in your preinst, check for /etc/foo and if it exists, mkdir /etc/package

Re: /etc/ question

the preinst, remove the old one in the postinst (with "configure" argument). That'll do the job. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food t

Re: Package checking

-dev, because these packages are both *explicitly* required by the build. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://w

Re: dh_installdeb & postrm

EBHELPER# line in them. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see h

Re: /etc/ question

s and the new conffile is left in place; you may not even need to worry about error unwinding. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Dev

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

s, indeed, the best way to handle such situations. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see ht

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

tted a proposal to -policy about this, cc'd to this list. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

as far as I know. > > > Where in the goddamned hell did you interpret that I said files in > /usr/share/doc/* should be included in conffiles ?!??!?!? > No, he misunderstood me, not you. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

lot of work to do. Good for new packages to be upgrade-ready. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate fre

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 01:48:06PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote: > I talked about the doc section of policy (13.3), Julian Gilbey started > talking about config files; hence the logical implication for the > sufficiently argumentative (me): Julian Gilbey was talking about config > files

Bug#87711: [PROPOSAL] Clarification of example configuration files

utomatically copied to -policy, so that this doesn't get discussed on three mailing lists. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://peo

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:18:39PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 01:48:06PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote: > > > I talked about the doc section of policy (13.3), Julian Gilbey started > > > talking about config files; hence the logical implication fo

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

ns out to have already happened in some places. At the very least, it would be good for packages to not rely on the existence of /usr/share/doc. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. o

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

ne And in the postrm, when called with the argument "purge": for i in scores saves ... do rm -f /var/lib/crafty/$i done Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London

Re: building binary-only package with different name?

rsion numbers. Just make sure the potato one is lower than the woody one. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.

Re: Wierd PETSc build behavior...

lear: there's no $ between the -L and the {. Otherwise, I have no idea. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.deb

Re: Wierd PETSc build behavior...

LDIR? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Wierd PETSc build behavior...

7; and see whether there's a typo somewhere? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungers

Re: Wierd PETSc build behavior...

the effect of a single dollar sign in a file name or command. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UN

Re: keeping files from one version to the other.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:42:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Julian Gilbey wrote: > > No, it isn't at all. Any configuration files MUST reside in /etc. > > These are not configuration files (the sorts of things used to > > configure a package), but score/state fi

Re: Policy and conffile editing

th a helper configuration script, but I didn't report them > as bugs because of the above message. Maybe file a wishlist bug against dpkg? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary,

Re: control file and {shlibs:Depends}

t; control; \ fi dh_gencontrol ... Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world&#x

Re: debconf and lintian "unknown-control-file"

don't yet know whether that is updated for debconf. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg

Re: Looking for Advocate

an advocate. You probably need a sponsor first, to help check over your package and upload it into the distro. (Sorry, I don't have the time to volunteer to do this.) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept

Re: Binary-only upload

e reference says that I should not touch the changelog, even when > updating the version by 0.1 for a binary-only upload?!? Which is impossible to do. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Ma

Re: transition from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc

hing in /usr/doc in the .debs themselves. Also, you can do without the manual symlinking of /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc, as debhelper puts in code to do that (dh_installdocs). Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept o

Re: transition from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc

n the preinst of your new package. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the wor

Re: cvs-- can't remember initial vendor tag

uot;cvs status -v" help you? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food

Re: DH_COMPAT 2 or 3 ?

potentially create different binaries with the same version number on the different platforms. Hmm. Why not just go with the potato version? It should work fine on unstable. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept

Re: directory in .deb

hat complains? If it's lintian and what you're doing is correct, don't worry about it. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see

Re: DH_COMPAT 2 or 3 ?

some problems because i was > depending on tcl/tk 8.3, while potato only has tcl/tk 8.2. Yeesh. Sounds yucky. If that's the need, I would be tempted to make a variant .diff.gz just for potato. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: directory in .deb

nusual executable location etc/ppp/ip-down.d/accounting I would recommend using (dh-make/dh_make and) debhelper rather than debstd. It's much easier to use and more easily fine-tuneable than debstd. Incidentally, this bug has been fixed in unstable and testing. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: uupdate and .rej files

rom any other diffs for this file. So you should definitely look through all of the .rej files to see why they have failed and whether or not they need to be applied to the new version in a modified way. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: i have a problem with making a .deb file

look into the deb file? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.t

Re: Package with dinstall

t; No. > > Thanks for the confirmation. Any special reason, or it is just that > nobody did it? AFAIK the latter. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU

Re: Specifing library version.

les appropriately. Then everything should work. (Just make sure that you use an option like -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.2,-lc to gcc when you create the shared library.) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths

Re: Specifing library version.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:59:20PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:01:24PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > (Just make sure that you use an option like > > -Wl,-soname,libfoo.so.2,-lc to gcc when you create the shared library.) > > When linking with g

Re: lintian -i file.changes error

s the file empty? :-) > > Actually, there is a bug in lintian that gives this warning erroneously > if .anchors is a HARD LINK, so also check that. And note that hard links are forbidden by policy. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: dpkg-source unhappy

n you check that you haven't put blank lines at the end of the file? I wonder whether that might be doing it? And you don't have anything strange like DOS line endings or something? You can check using od -bc control | less Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: lintian -i file.changes error

n /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.text.gz. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food t

Re: lintian -i file.changes error

ce_ package, > but recall that we are talking about .deb files. Sorry, I'm wrong. It was only in source packages that they are forbidden. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary

Re: lintian -i file.changes error

t (and soft links with "linkname -> filename"). Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www

Re: Custom package versioning

u could use an epoch. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: Policy Question: Startup Scripts and Config Files

keep the init script as a conffile even if there are "no > admin serviceable parts inside"? Yes. Someone might conceivably want to change bits. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Quee

Re: Policy Questions: Example files in /usr/share/doc

onfig files are not really interesting as examples, just needed by the postinst, then you can put them in /usr/share/$package (say as "default.conf"), and not bother linking them from /usr/share/doc. HTH, Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: Policy Question: Startup Scripts and Config Files

h shovels to > distribute it) to have a non-conffile anywhere in /etc. s/non-conffile/non-configuration file/ Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Lin

Re: Policy Questions: Example files in /usr/share/doc

d camp: the file is not really documentation, it's got more important functions. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http:/

Re: Basic lintian errors.

output of dpkg-deb -c for this.) HTH, Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UN

Re: Build against libdb1 instead of libdb2

w libc5 packages, do you? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Support for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS in rules files

will have debugging symbols. Then if there is a need to run a core trace or debug something, you can use the versions in the build tree without having to recompile (which might change stuff). Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: Creating a device file unknown to MAKEDEV

some kind soul help me to solve this dilemma? File a bug against the makedev package. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.d

Re: My su command doesn't work

ated by the PAM library, so you may also do well to give the output of ls -al /lib/security Julian P.S. Do we really need the ms-tnef attachment on a Linux list? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen

Re: gpg keyrings.

eveloper signatures on packages, then I think it's pretty important that the debian-keyring packages are kept reasonably up-to-date (say, once a month or so), or we'll have a lot of very troubled users Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: gpg keyrings.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 01:37:52AM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (1) It could be documented on http://keyring.debian.org/ > > I'm sure it could...[0] And I would do it if I had the faintest clue what I was talking a

Re: Questions about library names

he earlier version. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: dh_testroot ?

an clean up as fakeroot. Try the "debclean" command in devscripts. Makes life really easy. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Develo

Re: Weird source tarballs

and try building it. dpkg-source is pretty intelligent these days, so you probably don't need to worry about the directory name. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of Londo

Re: url (link) changed, please update YOUR links Thanks!

yperlink). Since the email was about 3 years ago, I can't imagine that anyone will use it to find your site :-( This email is likely to be more effective (it's more recent). Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey,

Re: dh_testroot ?

x27;fakeroot debian/rules clean' > > I just "debuild clean". (From devscripts.) debclean is even easier. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debia

Re: dh_testroot ?

Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.

Re: How to locally sign a package that has been built on another machine?

ge to know about (that's why I try to keep it in good shape ;-) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.o

Re: perl modules - building debs

make-perl. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/

Re: How to locally sign a package that has been built on another machine?

in your ~/.gnupg/options file to ensure the correct functioning of this (and possibly other) programs. Aborting Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg D

Re: perl modules - building debs

where to put it. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Build-depends question

ection 2.4.2 where this is explained in detail. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's

Re: Does debhelper handle build-indep ?

* Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSU

Re: Does debhelper handle build-indep ?

ay be packages for which splitting the build is infeasible. But that's not a problem; just do it all in build-arch and have build-indep depend on build-arch.) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths,

Re: Should libfile-temp-perl be removed ?

ing for it's removal. Or replace it by a dummy package which says "you can remove me now". Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Devel

Re: Adding device file to /dev.

ople who run devfsd do not need to have > makedev installed. Should this stuff go into policy? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see h

Re: /usr/share policy

ce you clearly own is OK. The name of a > binary you install sounds like it qualifies. Agreed. (And I don't think /usr/share/ is mandated.) Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Math

Re: /usr/share policy

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 07:23:08PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Agreed. (And I don't think /usr/share/ is mandated.) > > Every package MUST be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright > and distribution license in the file

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

etc/default namespace, and it's not intuitive. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to t

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:43:56AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:12:19 +0100, Julian Gilbey > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Why not just /etc/foorc or /etc/foo.conf or something like that? > > Because the conffile is not a "real" conffile,

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

s in /etc? > > Everything else would be a policy violation. Please explain how my suggest would violate policy. If it's the Right Thing to do, and it violates policy, we should modify policy. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: OK to use /etc/default for non-init script default data?

#x27;s a good way to consider doing things. > > If it's the Right > >Thing to do, and it violates policy, we should modify policy. > > Having non-conffile executeable code in /etc would violate policy, and > this is what we both try to avoid. Gosh, yes. That would be horri

Re: Moving a package from main to non-US/main?

. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: dpkg-genchanges and fileslistfile

. > dpkg-genchanges > dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory Can you show us your whole debian/rules file? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Q

Re: Replaces: and pre/post rm

l package, then the postrm should be called with the 'disappear' argument instead. This may be something to bring up on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Uni

Re: library soversion

ges will not be satisfied with the new package. However, locally compiled stuff will break. I don't see a good way around that, unless you start calling the library itself by a different name, but that's probably evil. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: Replaces: and pre/post rm

ame manually created files). You might also be interested in the call: remove in-favour This might possibly help you. See the policy manual, section 6.4. > I guess, given that, I could even have ${package}.postinst issue > a dpkg --purge for the alternative package... Yuck -- no way

Re: Empty package

if things change, and it's logically nicer too. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to

Re: Replaces: and pre/post rm

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 04:29:30PM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > So was the actually called with the purge > > option? It doesn't appear to have done. > > Not that I can find Good. > Since both packages mus

Re: Replaces: and pre/post rm

ail will be present on the system (it's in both packages). Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://people.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http:

Re: one package, many libraries. dependency break!

ree, thus, for example, for a pspell package: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=debian/libpspell2/usr/lib dpkg-shlibdeps \ debian/pspell/usr/bin/* Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, Queen Mary, Univ. of London

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