ier than that: dpkg-deb -c filename.deb | less
Also useful is dpkg-deb -I filename.deb | less (package information).
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't matter. Quite a lot
of my packages have .orig.tar.gz which unpack into directories
with no version number at all, and sometimes even a different name.
eg geda-gschem unpacks just as 'gschem/'.
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> On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:33:05PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> > > Should I be filling a wishlist bug against lintian, or is it ok (although
> >
ndard names now
(in the past they did not).
So, just rename the original to .orig.tar.gz and use it,
in most cases.
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> First of all, i believe you should compile 2.2.17 with gcc version 2.7.2
I compile my 2.2 kernels with gcc 2.95.2, no problem.
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ic as possible. Imagine if
the first 26 packages were named a through z, just because they
could be and they were first come first served?
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> > I disagree. The policy is to avoid namespace polution, which means
> > that package names should be as specific as possible. Imagine if
> > the first 26 pack
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 04:36:31PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
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> > OK, so call it water-demo or waterdemo or something along those lines.
> > I looked through the output of 'dpkg -l' on one of my systems and
> > saw
0d UR 2 k00l f0r me.
Perhaps a more interesting question is `does this sort of program
belong in Debian at all?'
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te it in the first place, just licensed it
or purchased the company (AFAIK). But then, "Access" is a funny
name for a database too.
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do a full
> source upload only *once* for a given upstream version of a package. If you
> try a second full-source upload, it will fail.
Which, IMHO, is a good thing. Previously, .orig.tar.gz could
change without any version number changing.
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> able to find anything about this in the packaging manual.
By the way, Linux 2.4 does not need isapnp either as it is built in
I think.
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orld.
There are some circumstances where it is necessary but they are not
too common these days.
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I don't know what the solution is to satisfy cvs-buildpackage.
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#x27; on the
package to see if dinstall will be happy.
Looks like dinstall is in the default path on auric.
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ainers.
For obvious reasons it is not on the web!
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I have never seen it leave them there. The .diff.gz,
.dsc, .orig.tar.gz, .deb, and .changes should all end up in the build
parent.
Perhaps you could run dpkg-buildpackage (or at least the
dh_builddeb or equivalent part) through strace?
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:56:42PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> and yes, I have a dupload.conf in that directory and a
> ~/.dupload.conf:
Weird. dupload(1) says that should work. It's a perl script,
so maybe you can debug it?
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after that, maybe next week.
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ke Debian.
No, Debian (a software project) is about developing an OS, not
about providing access to machines. The machines are only a tool
for developing the distribution.
They are not that exciting, either. Seen one Debian box, seen them all.
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ult, if not impossible, to work on debian without a local
installation. Although there are plenty of developer-accessible
.debian.org machines, most developers don't have root access to install
any new packages they have developed.. and you should certainly be
installing a package before uploading it.
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> ** On Jan 15, Hamish Moffatt scribbled:
> > No, Debian (a software project) is about developing an OS, not
> > about providing access to machines. The machines are only a tool
> > for developing the distrib
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:37:21PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> If he has root access on his Suse box, I think a chroot Debian
> environment might work out if he's careful.
Good point. If his work allows it..
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. There was certainly no
sponsorship back then.
I'm not suggesting you don't apply.. but given that it will take some
time to be processed, you might as well spend the time productively.
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be processed and installed into Debian without a PGP or GPG signature
from a Debian developer.
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; new revision is the right thing, right?
>
> No, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body:
> close 81745
Or [EMAIL PROTECTED], with an explanation in the text.
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I don't think that applies.
So, go ahead and use fwbuilder-frontend etc.
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e the Debian policy czars intend to make an announcement
about this on debian-devel[-announce] when it's in a released
version of policy, because I've never heard it mentioned
on debian-devel before.
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:02:16PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> dpkg-statoverride is only for the sysadmin to change things *from*
> their normal settings.
But that doesn't explain why it says the directory doesn't exist..
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ner of both packages you even don't need to write that
> policy down. Just make sure it works as expected.
BUT if they are conffiles then you MAY NOT DO THIS EVER!!
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me bug.
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rg/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=84871&repeatmerged=yes
The submitter assumed that my build-dep for libglib-dev was unnecessary
because I was also depending on libgtk1.2-dev.
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building
stuff. It's got OpenBSD on it currently.
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dit them,
can't it refer to them in the original location? If it is going
to edit them, it needs to copy the files themselves, not the links.
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There is no requirement that new packages work on old releases. New
packages should be linked against the latest libraries.
On the other hand, it would be nice if the latest libc6 was occasionally
backwards compatible.
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On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:00:31AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> can't file a bug, since the package is not in debian[1]
not true; you can file bugs against non-existent packages.
IIRC.
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m68k running unstable here.
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> installs it there.
That depends entirely on your DH_COMPAT setting, if using debhelper.
Installing into debian/tmp used to be the standard method,
and AFAIK still is if DH_COMPAT is undefined.
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> be regenerated automatically when I update the packages?
It will be automatically regenerated.
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:03:09PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > No, just go ahead and change it. An upload is considered an NMU
> > if the name in the changelog entry does not match the Maintainer
> > field in the control file. As long as you ch
was standard practise before we had fakeroot.
I suppose when you were building as root (non-fake), you would end up
with directories owned by root, so it made sense that you would need
root access to clean up as well.
Now it's just an annoyance. Only the binary target needs root access.
Hamish
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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:50:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Now it's just an annoyance. Only the binary target needs root access.
>
> Not quite. The clean target still should run as root unless you're building
> with fakeroot. For a variety
d and section: base. Is it
necessary for packages to declare an explicit dependency in that
case?
Admittedly, it's not essential: yes. Nor is libc6.
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However since I have no idea what any of
these tools do I didn't get very far.
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ion. However, no changes are made on disk.
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hey're coming
from two different people.
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oc.com.
Would you think MS would release an Outlook update that would address this
in some way? It's not exactly a new trick.
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cros that
the macros may be viruses. Outlook could look for attachments which
have executable extensions and do the same thing.
Or maybe MS could get out of the habit of hiding file extensions.
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some sort of protective environment which
means it can't do much damage.
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l -d debian/tmp
> $(MAKE) install DESTDIR=`pwd`/debian/tmp
>
> Is this right or just lucky?
It doesn't look right. Your two packages (otcl1 and otcl-dev) can't
share the same tmpdir.
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On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 02:18:41PM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
> On Saturday 28 July 2001 5:24 am, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > It doesn't look right. Your two packages (otcl1 and otcl-dev) can't
> > share the same tmpdir.
>
> Erm, why not? Surely the job of dh_mov
packages.
But I don't see how you can make this conditional on idle
being installed previously. The above will force idle-python1.5
to be installed.
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as they are not installed
into the binary package it is not a problem.
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:14:57PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 09:22:38PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Why do you need to remove them? As long as they are not installed
> > into the binary package it is not a problem.
>
> right! but thes
ng of your package description for cogito,
the name GIT (the version control system) doesn't seem to
mean anything in particular. So renaming it would not be a big loss.
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(is mtr?); do these really belong in the menu system? None of
my command line driven stuff have menu files (guavac, atp, ...)
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enu system to tell the menu system to do this though
because it would not be supported by the various X window managers
(not without a lot of work, anyway). Right?
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chine and does less work but bandwidth isn't always
spectacular; seems okay right now though. Logins are the same on
va (va.debian.org) as on master.
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aintainer one, you don't sign it ?
As Manoj says it uses the name of the last developer's entry in
debian/changelog for the username for pgp. The developer key ring won't
help -- you need the developer's private key to sign something
and would you believe, they're not in
ience, or lots of mine
at least (and I got it from other examples). Not to run make, but to
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hat config-bar is on the path?
Although that is reasonable for /usr/sbin, if the path has changed
as you hypothesise then perhaps the new path is not.
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red in hamm. Then they get delayed; I don't understand
why, but 9 days so far for a package which exists with exactly
the same components in hamm/contrib already.
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ormal ftp
> command from the ssh-agent shell, but I am asked to login just as if I
> was not using ssh.
Don't use FTP; instead, use scp (which works like rcp, but is on ssh).
dupload can be configured to use it.
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system admin's use (for third party packages
usually); Debian, being the OS vendor, can't touch it.
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X is a network protocol, after all.
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On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:28:24PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote:
> I need to restart sawfish, because sawfish crash each times a user upgrade
> sawfish. unstable is unstable...
And experimental is in project/experimental. Consider it.
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> echo " WARNIG - WARNIG - WARNIG - WARNIG - WARNIG - WARNIG"
I suggest you spelling WARNING correctly!
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t will always be out of date -- at the very least you will need
to update the debian/changelog when building the package.
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start up again and I have
> to drive over to the system.
I have never seen sshd be stopped during an upgrade. I do all my upgrades
via ssh.
And if something like ssh does go down, there's always a dialup modem
line. I've kept one on a remotely deployed machine of mine just for
this rea
dable or obfuscated. The language lets you do either,
and that's a good thing. (Trust me, I use VHDL daily and it's very verbose;
sometimes I like nice terse Perl.)
The language is not at fault, the programmers who use it badly are.
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On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 05:08:38PM +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The language is not at fault, the programmers who use it badly are.
>
> Especially the programmers who choose bad languages in the first place.
If there
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> Lets see, some regular used feature in Perlk is to use the return
> value of a funktion thats stored in $_ or somthing.
Sure, you CAN do that in Perl, but you don't have to.
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nstallmanpages -N nut-doc -p nut"
Try -Nnut-doc -pnut; no spaces. debhelper(1) does not show any spaces.
You should only need -pnut, and not -Nnut-doc.
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rograms to make them work within the Debian environment;
that's where Debian adds value versus compiling from source IMHO.
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recommendations.
Again there was no discussion of this mass bug-filing
campaign on debian-devel, as Debian's policy and manuals
require. (Unless I missed it and the discussion, which I doubt.)
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't matter. Quite a lot
of my packages have .orig.tar.gz which unpack into directories
with no version number at all, and sometimes even a different name.
eg geda-gschem unpacks just as 'gschem/'.
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ier than that: dpkg-deb -c filename.deb | less
Also useful is dpkg-deb -I filename.deb | less (package information).
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On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 11:49:49AM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:33:05PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:
> > > Should I be filling a wishlist bug against lintian, or is it ok (although
> >
ndard names now
(in the past they did not).
So, just rename the original to .orig.tar.gz and use it,
in most cases.
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 01:07:04PM -0800, Pete Lypkie wrote:
> First of all, i believe you should compile 2.2.17 with gcc version 2.7.2
I compile my 2.2 kernels with gcc 2.95.2, no problem.
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ic as possible. Imagine if
the first 26 packages were named a through z, just because they
could be and they were first come first served?
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0d UR 2 k00l f0r me.
Perhaps a more interesting question is `does this sort of program
belong in Debian at all?'
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te it in the first place, just licensed it
or purchased the company (AFAIK). But then, "Access" is a funny
name for a database too.
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do a full
> source upload only *once* for a given upstream version of a package. If you
> try a second full-source upload, it will fail.
Which, IMHO, is a good thing. Previously, .orig.tar.gz could
change without any version number changing.
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On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 02:38:15PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I disagree. The policy is to avoid namespace polution, which means
> > that package names should be as specific as possible. Imagine if
> > the first 26 pack
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 04:36:31PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > OK, so call it water-demo or waterdemo or something along those lines.
> > I looked through the output of 'dpkg -l' on one of my systems and
> > saw
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> able to find anything about this in the packaging manual.
By the way, Linux 2.4 does not need isapnp either as it is built in
I think.
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There are some circumstances where it is necessary but they are not
too common these days.
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I don't know what the solution is to satisfy cvs-buildpackage.
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#x27; on the
package to see if dinstall will be happy.
Looks like dinstall is in the default path on auric.
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For obvious reasons it is not on the web!
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I have never seen it leave them there. The .diff.gz,
.dsc, .orig.tar.gz, .deb, and .changes should all end up in the build
parent.
Perhaps you could run dpkg-buildpackage (or at least the
dh_builddeb or equivalent part) through strace?
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:56:42PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> and yes, I have a dupload.conf in that directory and a
> ~/.dupload.conf:
Weird. dupload(1) says that should work. It's a perl script,
so maybe you can debug it?
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lly he will have time to finish your application
after that, maybe next week.
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