Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Eike \"zyro\" Sauer
Frank Küster schrieb: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show file-rc I found this in a slashdot comment: "Init Replacements: simpleinit [csiro.au], minit [www.fefe.de], jinit [fremlin.de], runit, daemontools [cr.yp.to], serel [fastboot.org]. Progeny [progeny.org] also has their own system based on

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Eike \"zyro\" Sauer
Frank Küster schrieb: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show file-rc I found this in a slashdot comment: "Init Replacements: simpleinit [csiro.au], minit [www.fefe.de], jinit [fremlin.de], runit, daemontools [cr.yp.to], serel [fastboot.org]. Progeny [progeny.org] also has their own system based on

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Replying to myself. What a shame. Anyway, this whole thread really belongs in debian-devel. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > Hmm; I can see how to make it work if packages register /either/ static > > ordering or dependen

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Replying to myself. What a shame. Anyway, this whole thread really belongs in debian-devel. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > Hmm; I can see how to make it work if packages register /either/ static > > ordering or dependen

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Hmm; I can see how to make it work if packages register /either/ static > ordering or dependencies, but not both. It must, for backwards compatibility. Once the package has BOTH information registered, dependencies would take precedence (as in disa

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Hmm; I can see how to make it work if packages register /either/ static > ordering or dependencies, but not both. It must, for backwards compatibility. Once the package has BOTH information registered, dependencies would take precedence (as in disa

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Frank Küster
"Marc A. Pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:43, you wrote: >> We already have at least one very good dependency-based initscript system >> in Debian, so daemond is not alone in its troubles. > > Oh? Don't know it. Care to point me to it? I did already: [E

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-20 Thread Frank Küster
"Marc A. Pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:43, you wrote: >> We already have at least one very good dependency-based initscript system >> in Debian, so daemond is not alone in its troubles. > > Oh? Don't know it. Care to point me to it? I did already: [E

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-19 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:43, you wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most > > promising avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the > > problem is that from what I have understood, update-

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-19 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:43, you wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most > > promising avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the > > problem is that from what I have understood, update-

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most promising > avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the problem is that > from what I have understood, update-rc.d suffers from, by design, exactly the > same prob

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most promising > avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the problem is that > from what I have understood, update-rc.d suffers from, by design, exactly the > same prob

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:35, Frank Küster wrote: > I generally agree with what Joachim said. But note that for the package > to be integrated into debian, you would need to write a daemond version > of update-rc.d, which is the generic interface packages use to add > themselves to the init p

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 10:35, Frank Küster wrote: > I generally agree with what Joachim said. But note that for the package > to be integrated into debian, you would need to write a daemond version > of update-rc.d, which is the generic interface packages use to add > themselves to the init p

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Frank Küster
"Marc A. Pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the case of (b) and (c) above, things are complicated by the fact that I > don't personally use debian. (b) would be possible if someone would give me > a tarball of the set of all possible boot time scripts from a sid install, > although tes

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Frank Küster
"Marc A. Pelletier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the case of (b) and (c) above, things are complicated by the fact that I > don't personally use debian. (b) would be possible if someone would give me > a tarball of the set of all possible boot time scripts from a sid install, > although tes

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, if you don't use debian, I don't think )c makes any sense. Also, with b) you don't give much help to your prospective maintainer, since he has to take over a package he does not know yet. I guess it's the best to use way a). Of course nobody can guarantee that you will find someone to package

Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
Hello. I'm not entirely sure this is the best place for me to ask this, but it seemed like a reasonable guess. I am the author of daemond, an init replacement which is blindingly fast and flexible. I would like to allow it to work for debian but I am unsure how to proceed. Should I: (a) Ask

Re: Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, if you don't use debian, I don't think )c makes any sense. Also, with b) you don't give much help to your prospective maintainer, since he has to take over a package he does not know yet. I guess it's the best to use way a). Of course nobody can guarantee that you will find someone to package

Help with init replacement

2003-11-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
Hello. I'm not entirely sure this is the best place for me to ask this, but it seemed like a reasonable guess. I am the author of daemond, an init replacement which is blindingly fast and flexible. I would like to allow it to work for debian but I am unsure how to proceed. Should I: (a) Ask