On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Now /that/ is interresting and smart and is indeed likely the most promising > avenue for quick and dirty daemond integration in debian; the problem is that > from what I have understood, update-rc.d suffers from, by design, exactly the > same problem that rc.d style inits suffer from: no proper way of specifying > dependencies and ordering other than by asigning a cardinal and a set of
update-rc.d needs either another interface layer, or a sister command to register dependencies, alright. Want to take on the job? It must be made _very_ generic, a dependency-rc.d (or whatever) that would allow us to plug daemond, as well as the other dependency-based init script systems is very welcome. Don't forget invoke-rc.d either, and if you are mucking with init itself, also telinit. > The *correct* way of doing all this, of course, is for packages to create > their own service definition file and install them (possibly through some Nope. The correct way is to have a proper init system layer that can handle static and dynamic dependencies. I actually like the idea of service definition files, as long as they are generic (but I quite dislike the idea that one would probably need to run a update-dependency-rc.d or whatever script to "transfer" what is in the files to whatever init system is in use). > every package that possibly wants to add themselves to the bootstrap. In No. You just have to add a "compatibility" service that runs the non-dependency-based services as the stock sysv-init rc.d does. Oh, OF COURSE this doesn't give you all the imediate benefits, but it won't break the entire system. > other words, that can't be done before some time after daemond /already/ is > the de facto init process. THAT won't happen easily. OTOH, _IF_ a proper layer is written, tested and deployed, it is feasible to switch all the packages to something that works with it in optimal mode for the release after sarge. We already have at least one very good dependency-based initscript system in Debian, so daemond is not alone in its troubles. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
