Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: You could put zeth in contrib if it depends on acc, or if acc isn't required, then zeth could go in main. It's "Recommends: acc", but it also relies on commercial WAD data to function, so zeth is definitely a "contrib" package. The biggest problem is going to be tha

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 06:14:32PM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Pending a response from Raven, would it be at all acceptable to place > the acc package somewhere offsite and have the zeth package tell you > where to get it, or is even that running afoul of policy? You could put zeth in contri

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: Ayup. Fairly obviously somebody just decided "hey, let's release the source for this" but didn't really think through the ramifications of what they were doing. I wonder if the Open Source Initiative would consider helping companies to openly licence their software proper

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: You could put zeth in contrib if it depends on acc, or if acc isn't required, then zeth could go in main. It's "Recommends: acc", but it also relies on commercial WAD data to function, so zeth is definitely a "contrib" package. The biggest problem is going to be that the

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 06:14:32PM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Pending a response from Raven, would it be at all acceptable to place > the acc package somewhere offsite and have the zeth package tell you > where to get it, or is even that running afoul of policy? You could put zeth in contri

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: Ayup. Fairly obviously somebody just decided "hey, let's release the source for this" but didn't really think through the ramifications of what they were doing. I wonder if the Open Source Initiative would consider helping companies to openly licence their software properly,

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:06:06AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >What are .acs files when they're at home? General data goes in either > >/usr/share or /usr/lib, depending on the architecture-specificity. > > > They're uncompiled script files. It the case of the .acs

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: What are .acs files when they're at home? General data goes in either /usr/share or /usr/lib, depending on the architecture-specificity. They're uncompiled script files. It the case of the .acs files in the acc package, they're basically a string of #defines not unlik

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:19:19AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >If they're the typical .h files, /usr/include/acc would be as good a place > >as any. > > > They're not, they're .acs files. I think I'm going to rename the package What are .acs files when they're at home

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Benjamin Cutler wrote: The code is originally Copyright Raven, not Activision. Activision is only mentioned in the EULA. Nowhere in the actual source is Activision mentioned at all. But if I can't get a satisfactory response from Raven fairly soon, I'll see what Activision has to say, not that

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: Neither of those files grants your the right to make unlimited copies of the original source, let alone distribute modified versions. The "addendum" might be considered to allow unmodified distribution, but it contradicts the previous EULA. As such, it is not suitable for

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 03:04:50AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > "acc" has a somewhat unclear license regarding distribution and > modification. It includes both a EULA that sounds like a commercially > purchased binary, and another license file that basically says "modify > it, but don't sell

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 05:06:06AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > > >What are .acs files when they're at home? General data goes in either > >/usr/share or /usr/lib, depending on the architecture-specificity. > > > They're uncompiled script files. It the case of the .acs

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: What are .acs files when they're at home? General data goes in either /usr/share or /usr/lib, depending on the architecture-specificity. They're uncompiled script files. It the case of the .acs files in the acc package, they're basically a string of #defines not unlike C

Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Ok, I found a few pieces of related software that I'd like to package up. They rely on a program called ZDoom, which I believe somebody else is intending to package soon-ish. It's a very enhanced source port of Doom. I'm pretty sure the binary packages belong in contrib, as they rely on the com

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:19:19AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > Matthew Palmer wrote: > >If they're the typical .h files, /usr/include/acc would be as good a place > >as any. > > > They're not, they're .acs files. I think I'm going to rename the package What are .acs files when they're at home

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Benjamin Cutler wrote: The code is originally Copyright Raven, not Activision. Activision is only mentioned in the EULA. Nowhere in the actual source is Activision mentioned at all. But if I can't get a satisfactory response from Raven fairly soon, I'll see what Activision has to say, not that

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Matthew Palmer wrote: Neither of those files grants your the right to make unlimited copies of the original source, let alone distribute modified versions. The "addendum" might be considered to allow unmodified distribution, but it contradicts the previous EULA. As such, it is not suitable for a

Re: Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 03:04:50AM -0600, Benjamin Cutler wrote: > "acc" has a somewhat unclear license regarding distribution and > modification. It includes both a EULA that sounds like a commercially > purchased binary, and another license file that basically says "modify > it, but don't sell

Grab bag of questions

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin Cutler
Ok, I found a few pieces of related software that I'd like to package up. They rely on a program called ZDoom, which I believe somebody else is intending to package soon-ish. It's a very enhanced source port of Doom. I'm pretty sure the binary packages belong in contrib, as they rely on the com