Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The sonames for gtk+ are not reasonable regardless of the 1.3
> development series, because they're tied to 'versions' in the stable
> releases as well. Or were there no gtk+ functions at all that
> changed ABI between 1.0 and 1.2.x?
What are you talki
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The sonames for gtk+ are not reasonable regardless of the 1.3
> development series, because they're tied to 'versions' in the stable
> releases as well. Or were there no gtk+ functions at all that
> changed ABI between 1.0 and 1.2.x?
What are you talk
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> The libraries are only supposed to be used to port
> programs to the upcoming GNOME 2 platform, do you
> really think we should LART the GNOME developers for
> this while they are busy trying to bring it out?
If they are going to release these l
--- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The version numbering used upstream is completely
> reasonable:
> > check the archives for the discussions, non need
> to replay them
> > again.
>
> It is not reasonable. The major number of a library
> should change IFF there
> is a backwards-inc
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> The libraries are only supposed to be used to port
> programs to the upcoming GNOME 2 platform, do you
> really think we should LART the GNOME developers for
> this while they are busy trying to bring it out?
If they are going to release these
--- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The version numbering used upstream is completely
> reasonable:
> > check the archives for the discussions, non need
> to replay them
> > again.
>
> It is not reasonable. The major number of a library
> should change IFF there
> is a backwards-in
--- Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *
Christian Marillat
>
> | MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I
> guess calling
> | MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
> |
> | I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and
> 2.0
>
> Please LART upstream heavily and give the p
* Christian Marillat
| MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess calling
| MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
|
| I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and 2.0
GTK has a very, very broken versioning. There is no connection
between the soname of a library and the versio
On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a
> > proper name. That
> > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue
> > doing it the
> > wrong way.
The version numbering used upstream is completely reasonable:
check the archives for th
--- Paolo Molaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that probably all the gtk 1.3.x releases will
> be incompatible,
> so the package names should include also the micro
> number.
>
Makes sense, I'll do just that.
Thanks,
Michel
Do Y
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Paolo Molaro wrote:
> On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a
> > > proper name. That
> > > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue
> > > doing it the
> > > wrong way.
> The version numbering used upstr
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Paolo Molaro wrote:
> On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a
> > > proper name. That
> > > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue
> > > doing it the
> > > wrong way.
> The version numbering used upst
--- Paolo Molaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that probably all the gtk 1.3.x releases will
> be incompatible,
> so the package names should include also the micro
> number.
>
Makes sense, I'll do just that.
Thanks,
Michel
Do
On 06/05/01 Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > Please LART upstream heavily and give the packages a
> > proper name. That
> > tradition has done it wrong is no reason to continue
> > doing it the
> > wrong way.
The version numbering used upstream is completely reasonable:
check the archives for t
--- Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *
Christian Marillat
>
> | MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I
> guess calling
> | MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
> |
> | I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and
> 2.0
>
> Please LART upstream heavily and give the
* Christian Marillat
| MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess calling
| MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
|
| I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and 2.0
GTK has a very, very broken versioning. There is no connection
between the soname of a library and the versi
--- Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you mean gtk+
> >> 1.35 and glib 1.3.5 ?
> MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess
> calling
> MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
>
> I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and 2.0
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>> When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you mean gtk+
>> 1.35 and glib 1.3.5 ?
MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess calling
MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5
--- Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > "MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Pango is a separate tarball (current release 0.16)
I think what the person meant when asking whether
Pango will be included is whether I will package it as
well, so the answer
--- Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you mean gtk+
> >> 1.35 and glib 1.3.5 ?
> MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess
> calling
> MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
>
> I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.5 and 2.
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>> When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you mean gtk+
>> 1.35 and glib 1.3.5 ?
MAS> Indeed, but for package naming purpose I guess calling
MAS> them libglib2 and libgtk2 would work.
I disagree. The API may change between 1.3.
--- Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > "MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Pango is a separate tarball (current release 0.16)
I think what the person meant when asking whether
Pango will be included is whether I will package it as
well, so the answe
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MAS> I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti provides
MAS> bidirectional text support. Packages should
Quoting http://sources.redhat.com/inti/inti-manual/inti-manual.html
Inti is an integrated C++ development platform
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MAS> I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti
MAS> provides bidirectional text support. Packages should
MAS> be up tomorrow.
Pango is a separate tarball (current release 0.16)
When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you me
I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti
provides bidirectional text support. Packages should
be up tomorrow.
Regards,
Michel
--- Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michèl
Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) :
>
> > > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Michèl Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) :
> > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
[...]
Does that include Pango or what will becone Pango? I think *that*
would be most useful.
Roland.
--
Roland Mas
Magic is one thing, and reflected-
Seems to be a lot of popular support for my ITP (two
replies in under an hour? wow) so I will be working on
it tonight.
Thanks all,
Michel
--- Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> > > IANAD yet but wanting to get up to speed on the
> >
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > IANAD yet but wanting to get up to speed on the
> > upcoming GNOME 2 platform, I wanted to start
> > programming in Gtk+ 1.3.x / Inti. They are not
> > available as Debian packages so far so I guess I
> > will
> > package them myself.
> >
> >
Silly me, addressed it wrongly just now.
Please read the original posting below,
TIA
Michel
--- Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:41:32 +0100 (BST)
> From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
> To: Ben Gertzfeld
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MAS> I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti provides
MAS> bidirectional text support. Packages should
Quoting http://sources.redhat.com/inti/inti-manual/inti-manual.html
Inti is an integrated C++ development platfor
"MAS" == Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MAS> I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti
MAS> provides bidirectional text support. Packages should
MAS> be up tomorrow.
Pango is a separate tarball (current release 0.16)
When you talk about gtk2 and glib2, you m
I believe Pango has to be included as well since Inti
provides bidirectional text support. Packages should
be up tomorrow.
Regards,
Michel
--- Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michèl
Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) :
>
> > > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michèl Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) :
> > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
[...]
Does that include Pango or what will becone Pango? I think *that*
would be most useful.
Roland.
--
Roland Mas
Magic is one thing, and reflected
Seems to be a lot of popular support for my ITP (two
replies in under an hour? wow) so I will be working on
it tonight.
Thanks all,
Michel
--- Ove Kaaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> > > IANAD yet but wanting to get up to speed on the
> >
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > IANAD yet but wanting to get up to speed on the
> > upcoming GNOME 2 platform, I wanted to start
> > programming in Gtk+ 1.3.x / Inti. They are not
> > available as Debian packages so far so I guess I
> > will
> > package them myself.
> >
>
Silly me, addressed it wrongly just now.
Please read the original posting below,
TIA
Michel
--- Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:41:32 +0100 (BST)
> From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
> To: Ben Gertzfel
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