Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > We want to provide a binary distribution to our end users, and we want > > to have best possible experience, right? > > We want to provide a libre / *free* distribution to our end users. > Anything else is just tolerated / hoste

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , 2014-09-02, 11:56: > >2. Move it to non-free and get it vetoed as auto-buildable > >(requires that its license and the license of its non-free > >build-dependencies allow his). This isn't really supposed to > >work, but AFAIK

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:43:15PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > > It requires manually vetoing which packages from non-free are safe to > > be used as contrib build dependencies (much like we manually veto what > > packages from non-free can be autobuilt). > > Why would we need to manually select

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , 2014-09-02, 11:56: 2. Move it to non-free and get it vetoed as auto-buildable (requires that its license and the license of its non-free build-dependencies allow his). This isn't really supposed to work, but AFAIK we trust people will not abuse it, so it should

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Ole Streicher
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: >> Sure. The bug #690282 is two years old. All I ask here is how this can >> be changed, or what the effective way is to support all platforms >> here -- especially for a DM without abusing his mentor. > > It is not trivial to address this request. > > It requir

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014, Ole Streicher wrote: > The policy manual says (2.2.2): > > | The contrib archive area contains supplemental packages intended to > | work with the Debian distribution, but which require software outside > | of the distribution to either build or function. >

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Ole Streicher
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Ole Streicher wrote: >> Paul Wise writes: >> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: >> >> I am just looking for a solution for this problem... >> > >> > It might be easier to port the software to something that isn't >> >

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-09-02 Thread Ole Streicher
Jonathan Perry-Houts writes: > Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but have you looked in to > plplot? There is a program that claims to assist in converting pgplot > dependencies to plplot for exactly this > purpose. http://pg2plplot.sourceforge.net/ I'll have a look into that. Thank

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Ole Streicher wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> I am just looking for a solution for this problem... > > > > It might be easier to port the software to something that isn't > > non-free so the package can be put in main.

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-20 Thread Jonathan Perry-Houts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but have you looked in to plplot? There is a program that claims to assist in converting pgplot dependencies to plplot for exactly this purpose. http://pg2plplot.sourceforge.net/ On August 20, 2014 9

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-20 Thread Ole Streicher
Paul Wise writes: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> I am just looking for a solution for this problem... > > It might be easier to port the software to something that isn't > non-free so the package can be put in main. As you can see from the bug, dependency from pgplot

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Ole Streicher wrote: > I am just looking for a solution for this problem... It might be easier to port the software to something that isn't non-free so the package can be put in main. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ole, On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:07:31AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Andreas Tille writes: > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:31:40PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> > >> And, the question remains: how do I effectively shall maintain such a > >> package without burding a heavy load to my sponso

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-18 Thread Ole Streicher
Andreas Tille writes: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:31:40PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> >> And, the question remains: how do I effectively shall maintain such a >> package without burding a heavy load to my sponsor and possibly to other >> people (porters)? I am willing to do my job here, but I

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-08-18 09:46 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Ole, > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:31:40PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: >> >> And, the question remains: how do I effectively shall maintain such a >> package without burding a heavy load to my sponsor and possibly to other >> people (porters)?

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ole, On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:31:40PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > > And, the question remains: how do I effectively shall maintain such a > package without burding a heavy load to my sponsor and possibly to other > people (porters)? I am willing to do my job here, but I see myself quite >

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-17 Thread Ole Streicher
Jakub Wilk writes: > i386 packages can be built in a chroot. For anything else, you can ask on a > porters' mailing list[0]; although it might not be worth the effort. OK, my sponsor granted be upload rights for the package yet. So, I first uploaded a new version (source + amd64), and then built

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Jakub Wilk writes: > [Out of curiosity, is there a reason your name in the From field is > written in a mixture of Latin and Cyrillic scripts?] That is my usenet-setup; it just makes it difficult do google my postings by my name while the name is still human-readable. > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 19:49: >>> i386 packages can be built in a chroot. For anything else, you can >>> ask on a porters' mailing list[0]; although it might not be worth >>> the effort. >> >> Since I am not a DD yet, this would mean that I have to ask for >> access to

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 19:49: i386 packages can be built in a chroot. For anything else, you can ask on a porters' mailing list[0]; although it might not be worth the effort. Since I am not a DD yet, this would mean that I have to ask for access to all porter boxes, build the binaries,

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
[Out of curiosity, is there a reason your name in the From field is written in a mixture of Latin and Cyrillic scripts?] * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-15, 10:15: I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: > One more question: > Jakub Wilk writes: > > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 09:46: > >> I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package > >> (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder > >> (after adding

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-15 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
One more question: Jakub Wilk writes: > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 09:46: >> I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package >> (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder >> (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. > >

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > Initial priorities are set by the ftpmaster that accepted the package from > NEW. They may, or may not match the ones in the package's priority field. > > i.e. that field is an _advisory_ field. This is not what is in the policy. The policy says, that it is

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: > > Also, dak is canonical for priorities, and values in binary packages > > are only used on initial upload to set the initial override value. > > From that point forward, changes have to be made via bugs filed with > > ftp.debian.o

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
debian-de...@liska.ath.cx (Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr) writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> I'm pretty sure that default is applied before dak ever sees the binary >> package priority. (In other words, it's expanded via the build process >> before priorities are added to the *.changes file.) > So it is a debhe

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Russ Allbery writes: > debian-de...@liska.ath.cx (Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr) writes: >> Ansgar Burchardt writes: > >>> As I don't really care about Priority and Section for source packages, I >>> haven't thought further about this and dak currently uses misc:extra for >>> all of them. > >> Policy, 5.6.6: Pri

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Russ Allbery
debian-de...@liska.ath.cx (Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr) writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> As I don't really care about Priority and Section for source packages, I >> haven't thought further about this and dak currently uses misc:extra for >> all of them. > Policy, 5.6.6: Priority > | This field represent

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > As I don't really care about Priority and Section for source packages, I > haven't thought further about this and dak currently uses misc:extra for > all of them. Policy, 5.6.6: Priority | This field represents how important it is that the user have the | package insta

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 10:08: I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. >>>This is bug #6

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 10:08: I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. This is bug #690282. Hmm, so how do I build the

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Ansgar Burchardt , 2014-08-14, 10:26: Also, I am wondering about the section and priority: The control file [3] and the dsc file has contrib/science and optional, but the PTS lists them as contrib/misc and extra. Who changed that, why is this done, and shouldn't the uploaded/maintainer be inf

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, debian-de...@liska.ath.cx (Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr) writes: > Also, I am wondering about the section and priority: The control file > [3] and the dsc file has contrib/science and optional, but the PTS lists > them as contrib/misc and extra. Who changed that, why is this done, and > shouldn't the uploade

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 09:46: >> I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package >> (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder >> (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. > > This is bug #690282

Re: Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr , 2014-08-14, 09:46: I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. This is bug #690282. Also, I am wondering about

Build-depending on non-free package

2014-08-14 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Hi, I've uploaded a package to contrib [1], that needs a non-free package (pgplot5) as build dependency. While it builds nicely on my local pbuilder (after adding non-free), it fails to build on the buildds [2]. Is there a special thingy that I missed when I specified the dependency? Also, I am