Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

> Op 04-03-2022 01:10 schreef Paul Wise : > > > On Thu, 2022-03-03 at 16:30 +0100, Albert van der Horst wrote: > > > Is it frowned upon by the Debian community to use the .deb format to > > publish these packages? > > While it is fine to publish .deb packages outside of Debian, it is > usua

Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

On Thu, 2022-03-03 at 16:30 +0100, Albert van der Horst wrote: > Is it frowned upon by the Debian community to use the .deb format to > publish these packages? While it is fine to publish .deb packages outside of Debian, it is usually better for everyone and recommended by Debian to get them inc

Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

Hello, there are a lot of packages in deb format published outside the Debian community (esp. by some distributions, but also by some so called upstream projects). The deb format is an open standard. But there are some differences between Debian packages and packages using the deb format.

Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 05:29:47PM +0100, Ali Mezgani wrote: > On 03/03/2022, at 17:27, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:30:35PM +0100, Albert van der Horst wrote: > >> Dear mentors, > >> I plan to publish (at least) 4 Debian packages. > >> > >> The format is ideal for my

Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

Rahmatullin, I remember you and I remember you contributions. > On 03/03/2022, at 17:27, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:30:35PM +0100, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> Dear mentors, >> I plan to publish (at least) 4 Debian packages. >> >> The format is ideal for my use

Re: A question about "non official" debian packages

On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 04:30:35PM +0100, Albert van der Horst wrote: > Dear mentors, > I plan to publish (at least) 4 Debian packages. > > The format is ideal for my users to install, and the .deb format takes care > of installing .info files at the right place, something I find impossible to

A question about "non official" debian packages

Dear mentors, I plan to publish (at least) 4 Debian packages. The format is ideal for my users to install, and the .deb format takes care of installing .info files at the right place, something I find impossible to do. Is it frowned upon by the Debian community to use the .deb format to publis

Re: a question about debian package

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 05:02:12PM -0800, Richard Zhang wrote: > Failed to preset unit: Unit > /run/systemd/generator.late/roche-htp-connect-api.service is transient or > generated. > /usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper: error: systemctl preset failed on > roche-htp-connect-api.service: No such file or dir

a question about debian package

Hi, I have a question about Debian packaging. I am wondering if anyone has time to take a look at my question and provide some suggestions. Thank you! I am trying to install a REST API service to Ubuntu with a .deb file (Debian package). However we got installation errors: Failed to preset

Re: A question about uscan and MUT with different versions

Hi Leopold, > salsa ci build the package but other test fails and I don't know if it's > a package issue or salsa ci. Unfortunately, I don't know the cause of those failures. Considering how early the jobs failed I'd guess your package wasn't even involved yet, though. > > FWIW, the --download-c

Re: A question about uscan and MUT with different versions

Hi Robin, first of all thanks for the reply. El 21/4/20 a les 20:32, Robin Gustafsson ha escrit: > Hi Leopold, > >> However, when I push it to salsa and run ci, the command executed is this: >> >> uscan --download --download-current-version >> >> and fails because the "data" modules has differen

Re: A question about uscan and MUT with different versions

Hi Leopold, > However, when I push it to salsa and run ci, the command executed is this: > > uscan --download --download-current-version > > and fails because the "data" modules has different version number that > the original main or this is what I understand [2]. > > Some of you knows how to man

A question about uscan and MUT with different versions

Hi, I have some trouble with the soqt package [1]. This package upstream have released with three modules: main, data and gui. If you clone the repo and process uscan with: uscan --verbose --force-download --copy it will download the corresponding files and create: soqt_1.6.0+ds1.orig.tar.xz

Re: A question about stack alignment in C language

On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 02:08:17AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > Hi mentors, Unlike Matthew, I don't consider code questions to be completely off topic. And I hate Stack Overflow. So let's continue to the fun. :) > float sasum64(size_t N, const float *X, size_t incX) > float sasum32(int N

Re: A question about stack alignment in C language

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 19:08, Mo Zhou wrote: > > Hi mentors, > > This question tightly associates with my ongoing work for Debian's > BLAS/LAPACK packages, specifically the 32-bit and 64-bit variants. > I encountered a problem that I don't fully understand so I think I > need some help at this p

A question about stack alignment in C language

Hi mentors, This question tightly associates with my ongoing work for Debian's BLAS/LAPACK packages, specifically the 32-bit and 64-bit variants. I encountered a problem that I don't fully understand so I think I need some help at this point. Assume we have the following library "libfoo.c":

Re: A question about svn-buildpackage

* Ben Finney , 2010-12-14, 15:43: mergeWithUpstream mode detected, looking for ../tarballs/hg-git_0.2.5.orig.tar.gz I: mergeWithUpstream property set, looking for upstream source tarball... E: Could not find the origDir directory, please check the settings! at /usr/bin/svn-buildpackage line 595.

Re: A question about svn-buildpackage

Paul Wise writes: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Qijiang Fan wrote: > > > mergeWithUpstream mode detected, looking for > > ../tarballs/hg-git_0.2.5.orig.tar.gz > > I: mergeWithUpstream property set, looking for upstream source tarball... > > E: Could not find the origDir directory, please ch

Re: A question about svn-buildpackage

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Qijiang Fan wrote: > mergeWithUpstream mode detected, looking for > ../tarballs/hg-git_0.2.5.orig.tar.gz > I: mergeWithUpstream property set, looking for upstream source tarball... > E: Could not find the origDir directory, please check the settings! at > /usr/bin

A question about svn-buildpackage

I'm new in Debian.And i met a problem on svn-buildpackage $ls schacon-hg-git-0ed3c70 tarballs $ls tarballs/ hg-git_0.2.5.orig.tar.gz $cd schacon-hg-git-0ed3c70/ $svn-buildpackage -rfakeroot Complete layout information: trunkDir=/tmp/xx/schacon-hg-git-0ed3c70 trunkUrl=svn+ssh:// fqj1994-gu...@svn.

Re: A question about adopting a package

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:42:41AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > It seems that you have awaken the previous maintainer who have stolen your > ITA. I hope that this won't bug you. Yes, I have already noticed. That is perfectly ok with me. To Alan Bain: - If you are reding this list, c

Re: A question about adopting a package

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:05:26 +0400, Stanislav Maslovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > === 8< >> > package wnpp >> > retitle 465910 ITA: nec -- NEC2 Antenna Modelling System >> > owner 465910 ! >> > quit >> > === >8 ===

Re: A question about adopting a package

Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz wrote: > > You don't actually need the 'quit', but it hurts noone. > > There actuatually seems to be a trend to use 'kthxbye' nowadays, which > is not documented, but seems to work, and a lot cooler and lolcatter

Re: A question about adopting a package

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Amaya wrote: > Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz wrote: > > You don't actually need the 'quit', but it hurts noone. > > There actuatually seems to be a trend to use 'kthxbye' nowadays, > which is not documented, but seems to work, and a lot cooler and > lolcatter It is "documnted" o

Re: A question about adopting a package

Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz wrote: > You don't actually need the 'quit', but it hurts noone. There actuatually seems to be a trend to use 'kthxbye' nowadays, which is not documented, but seems to work, and a lot cooler and lolcatter From http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control quit

Re: A question about adopting a package

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 02:36:37PM -0500, Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:25:11PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > > Shall this mail sent from my own address to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] suffice for setting an ITA? > > > > === 8< ==

Re: A question about adopting a package

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:25:11PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > As I have never worked with the BTS control bot, I am asking for > directions. Shall this mail sent from my own address to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] suffice for setting an ITA? > > === 8< =

A question about adopting a package

Hello mentors, Reading the list of orphaned packages I have noticed that package "nec" has been orphaned [1]. Because I use NEC2 in antenna related research I think that I can adopt this package. At the moment I am not a maintainer of any package in Debian nor a DD, however I have been packaging

Re: QGFE -- A question about no-stripping options

* Giorgio Pioda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070515 15:59]: > I tried to run a dpkg-buildpackage with this variable set but in the > output of dpkg-buildpackage nothing changes... > > Maybe the difference is only visible opening the program with the debugger?? Yes, the difference is only visible when look

Re: QGFE -- A question about no-stripping options

On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:04:13 +0200 Giorgio Pioda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > setting "nostrip" in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS deactivate automatically > > dh_strip > > in the install mechanism? Only if that specific package includes support for this option in debian/rules. Check debian/rules for "no-stri

QGFE -- A question about no-stripping options

Hallo mentors, I've readed about it in the man pages, but I'would like to have a confirmation about this fact: setting "nostrip" in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS deactivate automatically dh_strip in the install mechanism? I tried to run a dpkg-buildpackage with this variable set but in the output of dpkg-

Re: A question about debconf

On 11/11/05, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feifei Jia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I wanted to delete the date which stored in debconf database when > > purge a package. So I added "db_purge" both in prerm and postrm > > scripts, but it seemed not work. > > > > Did

Re: A question about debconf

Feifei Jia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > I wanted to delete the date which stored in debconf database when > purge a package. So I added "db_purge" both in prerm and postrm > scripts, but it seemed not work. > > Did I miss something? Any hints appreciated. Did you load confmodule? R

A question about debconf

Hi there, I wanted to delete the date which stored in debconf database when purge a package. So I added "db_purge" both in prerm and postrm scripts, but it seemed not work. Did I miss something? Any hints appreciated. -- Thanks~

Re: A question regarding unofficial packages (for Xen)

On 7/13/05, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's really nice. You'll find some of the information on > more useful than the policy itself. > > I've read that better integration in make-kpkg was on the TODO, but > make-kpkg on Xen sources worked for

Re: A question regarding unofficial packages (for Xen)

On 7/13/05, Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's really going to come down to what Adam thinks he can do. If he > believes he needs help then you could suggest that he sponsors you > (or a bunch of you). I do know there is a lot of interest in Xen. > > Adam is [EMAIL PROTECTED], did you

Re: A question regarding unofficial packages (for Xen)

Hi, On Wed, Jul 13, 2005, Yvette Chanco wrote: > The only things I could think to do were keep working on my packages > to make them clean and conform with policy, and post to this list to > ask for advice. Does anybody have thoughts on what the best course of > action is? That's really

Re: A question regarding unofficial packages (for Xen)

On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 03:16:45AM -0500, Yvette Chanco wrote: > Apologies if the answer to this is obvious, or if this is the wrong > list. My question involves Xen which has been maintained through > 2.0.5-3 (in experimental) by Adam Heath. I am not in any way trying to > highjack this package -

A question regarding unofficial packages (for Xen)

Apologies if the answer to this is obvious, or if this is the wrong list. My question involves Xen which has been maintained through 2.0.5-3 (in experimental) by Adam Heath. I am not in any way trying to highjack this package - I was very happy with the original. However, since the release of Xen 2

Re: A question...

On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:35:26AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi , > i want to join Debian as a developer . > and i want be debian developer. > i mean to say that i want to join Debian organization as a permanet > job/Employee so can any one tell me that what is the procedure , so i will >

Re: A question...

Hi, It's all volunteer work... :) Begin with reading: http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html There is a lot of information in how to become a debian developer. When done that, you should search for a sponsor and get a package uploaded, fix bugs, do translations and other usef

Re: A question...

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i want to join Debian as a developer . > and i want be debian developer. > i mean to say that i want to join Debian organization as a permanet > job/Employee so can any one tell me that what is the procedure , so i will > follow that procedure. Hi, D

A question...

Hi , i want to join Debian as a developer . and i want be debian developer. i mean to say that i want to join Debian organization as a permanet job/Employee so can any one tell me that what is the procedure , so i will follow that procedure. Thanks Deepak Tripathi . (my blood says Lin

A question about boot order

Hello all, I recently took over hdparm when it was orphaned, and as I was looking it over, I decided to finally add the init script that had multiple wishlist bugs open as I wanted the feature anyway. I wrote up something I'm happy with as far as the script itself goes (although more review would

A question about boot order

Hello all, I recently took over hdparm when it was orphaned, and as I was looking it over, I decided to finally add the init script that had multiple wishlist bugs open as I wanted the feature anyway. I wrote up something I'm happy with as far as the script itself goes (although more review would

Re: A question about the application process

Hi Deedra, would you mind to tell us in which area you live? I don't exclude the possibility of a DD just passing by or something like similar. Thanks Fabio On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Deedra Waters wrote: > I filled out the application to become a debian developer last night. I > have everyth

Re: A question about the application process

Hi, Roland Mas wrote: > Deedra Waters (2003-04-24 10:21:58 -0400) : > > > My question is this. I tried submitting the application with out the > > gpg key info to go ahead and get that part going as my > > sponsor/advocate suggested, but the application thing came back > > saying "there was an er

Re: A question about the application process

On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 10:21:58AM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote: > (..) > aren't really close to me, and I'm legally blind so don't have the ability > to drive at all, and traveling long distences costs money which I really > don't have much of. If there is no way to meet a developer at all, you can

Re: A question about the application process

Deedra Waters (2003-04-24 10:21:58 -0400) : > My question is this. I tried submitting the application with out the > gpg key info to go ahead and get that part going as my > sponsor/advocate suggested, but the application thing came back > saying "there was an error processing my application" My q

A question about the application process

I filled out the application to become a debian developer last night. I have everything done I need to accept for the gpg key signing which is taking some time do to the fact that the debian developers in my area aren't really close to me, and I'm legally blind so don't have the ability to drive at

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think I've really anwered your question, though I hope I've > provided some perspective. I'd really like to hear from people who > have just gotten into programming and learning about computers in > the

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think I've really anwered your question, though I hope I've > provided some perspective. I'd really like to hear from people who > have just gotten into programming and learning about computers in > the

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implemen

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:20:02PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Danish wrote: > > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > > made before. > > Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti > code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overfl

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

I get less out of computer books than most people on this thread. With the technical/reference books I seem to not read them until I know most of what's in them, and then just use them to mop up any odd corner I missed. And I'd rather learn the more process and theory oriented stuff the hard way. T

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Matthew Danish wrote: > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > made before. Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overflows, I've written accidential rm -rf's in shell. I've written bubble so

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement wha

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:20:02PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Matthew Danish wrote: > > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > > made before. > > Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti > code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overfl

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

I get less out of computer books than most people on this thread. With the technical/reference books I seem to not read them until I know most of what's in them, and then just use them to mop up any odd corner I missed. And I'd rather learn the more process and theory oriented stuff the hard way. T

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Matthew Danish wrote: > If you don't learn, you're going to make the same mistakes that were > made before. Making mistakes can be the essence of learning. I've written spaghetti code in BASIC, I've written C with buffer overflows, I've written accidential rm -rf's in shell. I've written bubble so

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Hi Barry, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Other paths that might lead you to inspirations: > * On a related note, extensions to programs you use can make nice > little projects. Here might be a nice little project. I thought so aft

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement what was described. > I am prett

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Hi Barry, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Other paths that might lead you to inspirations: > * On a related note, extensions to programs you use can make nice > little projects. Here might be a nice little project. I thought so aft

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Barry deFreese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading "The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants" I was always itching to implement what was described. > I am prett

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.22.0130 +0100]: > Hehe, I got the company to buy all three volumes!! Suckers!! :-) Good job... but: this mailing list is archived... ;^> But since you are the Tech Manager, go and hide it with content security. -- Please do not CC me whe

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.21.2018 +0100]: > I notice that many of you have mentioned Knuth. Are all of you talking > specifically about "The Art of Computer Programming" volumes? Yes. IMHO the best programming books ever written. -- Please do not CC me when replyi

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Chad, this was a very well formulated post with very good points. Thank you. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do tha

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.21.2123 +0100]: > This reminds me of a very good book that is now out of print > "Etudes for Programmers" by Charles Wetherell. I think that the best book (well, it's three actually) to read is Knuth's TAoCP. You'll get the computer science and Kn

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

I would pick up an easy but cool project. I have always taught C with reference to writing a CGI library, because it deals with a lot of pointer stuff and "strings" and others. I've taught C++ with reference to a neural network simulator, and I've taught LISP by writing a compiler. There is nothing

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.22.0130 +0100]: > Hehe, I got the company to buy all three volumes!! Suckers!! :-) Good job... but: this mailing list is archived... ;^> But since you are the Tech Manager, go and hide it with content security. -- Please do not CC me whe

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.21.2018 +0100]: > I notice that many of you have mentioned Knuth. Are all of you talking > specifically about "The Art of Computer Programming" volumes? Yes. IMHO the best programming books ever written. -- Please do not CC me when replyi

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Chad, this was a very well formulated post with very good points. Thank you. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do tha

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

also sprach Jim Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.21.2123 +0100]: > This reminds me of a very good book that is now out of print > "Etudes for Programmers" by Charles Wetherell. I think that the best book (well, it's three actually) to read is Knuth's TAoCP. You'll get the computer science and Kn

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

I would pick up an easy but cool project. I have always taught C with reference to writing a CGI library, because it deals with a lot of pointer stuff and "strings" and others. I've taught C++ with reference to a neural network simulator, and I've taught LISP by writing a compiler. There is nothing

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030321T142330-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > > the theory. > > > > Reading books is theory,

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030321T142330-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > > the theory. > > > > Reading books is theory,

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Viehmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:16 PM > To: deFreese, Barry > Cc: debian-mentors > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > > > I notice that many of you hav

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Viehmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:16 PM > To: deFreese, Barry > Cc: debian-mentors > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > > > I notice that many of you hav

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:23:30PM -0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > > the theory. > > > > Reading

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> I notice that many of you have mentioned Knuth. Are all of you talking > specifically about "The Art of Computer Programming" volumes? Yes. It's the classic on algorithms. However, recall Mark Twain's definition of a classic: A classic is something that everyone wants to have read and nobody wa

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > the theory. > > Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. Indeed, I am recommending

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Viehmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:06 AM > To: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho > Cc: debian-mentors > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > In my limited experience, most peo

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > >>Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to >>the theory. > Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. Reading man pages, too, unless you want to practice using man. In my lim

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:23:30PM -0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > > the theory. > > > > Reading

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > the theory. Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Taiteellisen ohjelmoinni

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Sven Luther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:18 AM > To: Barry deFreese > Cc: 'debian-mentors@lists.debian.org' > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > > On Thu, Ma

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> I notice that many of you have mentioned Knuth. Are all of you talking > specifically about "The Art of Computer Programming" volumes? Yes. It's the classic on algorithms. However, recall Mark Twain's definition of a classic: A classic is something that everyone wants to have read and nobody wa

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:21:35PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030320T214958-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > I highly recommend putting aside the IP-address-configuration stuff for > > the moment and consider becoming a better programmer computer-science > > wise. Get your principl

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:14:26PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > > the theory. > > Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. Indeed, I am recommending

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Viehmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:06 AM > To: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho > Cc: debian-mentors > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > In my limited experience, most peo

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > >>Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to >>the theory. > Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. Reading man pages, too, unless you want to practice using man. In my lim

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:30:49PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: > > I will definetely check into the books and such you have suggested. > However, two of my fundamental problems are thus: I don't learn a great > deal from reading unfortunately. I am pretty much a hands on guy with a > background i

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

> -Original Message- > From: Sven Luther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:18 AM > To: Barry deFreese > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 0

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030321T123756-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > Neither of the programming books I recommended restrict themselves to > the theory. Reading books is theory, regardless of what they cover. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Taiteellisen ohjelmoinni

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:21:35PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On 20030320T214958-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > > I highly recommend putting aside the IP-address-configuration stuff for > > the moment and consider becoming a better programmer computer-science > > wise. Get your principl

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

| >The first is looking to other people for problems to be solved. You'll | >never find the inspiration in solving problems that don't affect you. | >Since you don't feel the itch, you don't get much satisfaction from the | >scratch. Greetings, I agree whole-heartedly. Find a program/pa

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:30:49PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: > > I will definetely check into the books and such you have suggested. > However, two of my fundamental problems are thus: I don't learn a great > deal from reading unfortunately. I am pretty much a hands on guy with a > background i

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030320T214958-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > I highly recommend putting aside the IP-address-configuration stuff for > the moment and consider becoming a better programmer computer-science > wise. Get your principles down; that's more important. If you want to > move beyond simple stuff you h

RE: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

| >The first is looking to other people for problems to be solved. You'll | >never find the inspiration in solving problems that don't affect you. | >Since you don't feel the itch, you don't get much satisfaction from the | >scratch. Greetings, I agree whole-heartedly. Find a program/pa

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

On 20030320T214958-0500, Matthew Danish wrote: > I highly recommend putting aside the IP-address-configuration stuff for > the moment and consider becoming a better programmer computer-science > wise. Get your principles down; that's more important. If you want to > move beyond simple stuff you h

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