Re: dir permissions

2002-07-12 Thread Joseph Carter
ce you know > how it works and try it out it'll seem easy enough. Just like anything worthwhile. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this sig were funny... o Rocking the open source community to its foundations, Linux creator Linus Torvalds has placed h

Re: dir permissions

2002-07-12 Thread Joseph Carter
ce you know > how it works and try it out it'll seem easy enough. Just like anything worthwhile. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If this sig were funny... o Rocking the open source community to its foundations, Linux creator Linus Torvalds has placed h

Re: dir permissions

2002-07-12 Thread Joseph Carter
some 200+ dotfiles/dotdirs in ~) but I will still be annoyed. =) -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're entitled to my opinion media ethics is an oxymoron, much like Jumbo Shrimp and Microsoft Works. not to mention NT Security pgp683n6wI1j6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: dir permissions

2002-07-12 Thread Joseph Carter
some 200+ dotfiles/dotdirs in ~) but I will still be annoyed. =) -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're entitled to my opinion media ethics is an oxymoron, much like Jumbo Shrimp and Microsoft Works. not to mention NT Security msg06594/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Q] How to move to GPG keys...

2000-03-02 Thread Joseph Carter
he 20th), you're right. About deprecation of RSA keys, it's now the case that it's possible to break 512 bit RSA. 1024 bit is currently safe, but how long will that last? -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net G

Re: shlib dependencies

2000-01-29 Thread Joseph Carter
r now just use the svgalib dummy package and wait for woody. (Wichert says woody's dpkg will fix this problem..) -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian.org

Re: Mp3 encoders

2000-01-08 Thread Joseph Carter
ll do so... It's packaged but has not been uploaded due to the patent stupidity. I hope he doesn't forget gogo! ;> -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.de

Re: Mp3 encoders

2000-01-08 Thread Joseph Carter
players could not be packaged into non-us, but hey, if I can't package mp3 encoders, I know where to get the source. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian Linux developer http://tank.debian.net GnuPG key pub 1024D/DCF9DAB3 sub 2048g/3F9C2A43 http://www.debian

Re: Logging procedure/mechanism questions

1999-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
sions be on > /etc/logrotate.d/portslave? 700? Yes and 755. > And another question just out of curiosity... Why does logrotate depend > on mailx? What's special about mailx that any other MUA won't provide? the name of the command, "mailx" -- Joseph Carter

Re: Little FAQ for users and maintainers

1999-10-02 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:18:41AM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > Conflicts: foo (<< new-version) And don't forget Replaces: foo (<< new-version), that's what it's there for---files moving from one package to another! -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Upstream Source

1999-08-02 Thread Joseph Carter
t's not too painful to make debian/rules deal with it, pristine source should probably win out over a little frustration. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian GNU/Linux developer GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
e, but is more > secure than most ad hoc key signing sessions I have attended ;-) It also deals with all the paranoia issues we've seen in this thread related to possible theft of identity. If the person has the key, has ID in

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
9C2A43 - 20F62261F1857A3E79 FC44F98FF7D7A3DCF9DAB3. That much you can be certain of. My name may be Joseph Carter, Thomas J Carter, Knghtbrd, or Bozo the Clown---that doesn't matter in the least. You KNOW I am those numbers. Given that names are not unique and neither are aliases (as eviden

Re: PGP and verifying ids / emails

1999-07-30 Thread Joseph Carter
inger print. I check the > ID matches the photo ID's I saw. I sign just that ID. Now tell me > again, how short of forging two picture ID's, there is a flaw in > this. Stealing the ID might work if you look anything like the other

Re: (Possible) new maintainer, gpg question

1999-07-17 Thread Joseph Carter
use: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -pgpg -sgpg -k0x50BDA0ED -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian GNU/Linux developer GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 PGP 2.6: 2048R/50BDA0ED - E8 D6 84 81 E3 A8

Re: pgp or gpg ?

1999-07-16 Thread Joseph Carter
ing close to about 430 more days. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian GNU/Linux developer GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 PGP 2.6: 2048R/50BDA0ED - E8 D6 84 8

Re: ATerm package

1999-07-07 Thread Joseph Carter
ch is what I thought you were planning to do..) Um, you probably should also rename aterm and use /etc/alternatives for this like rxvt does IIRC. > The new packages are already there: > deb http://www.via.ecp.fr/~sam/ debian/ I'll have a look in a bit. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: ATerm package

1999-07-07 Thread Joseph Carter
agine aterm is probably an Imake thing rather than an autoconf based, so you have to build and install one, then build and install the other. If you have trouble I'll be happy to help if I can. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A

Re: dpkg-buildpackage and GPG

1999-07-04 Thread Joseph Carter
The solution to my problem is to tell gpg which keyid to use. Of course, dpkg-buildpackage doesn't do that. Fix is attached. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9445FBEThe Source

dpkg-buildpackage and GPG

1999-07-04 Thread Joseph Carter
I've been using it all day, ugh. mutt obviously can use gpg with the RSA key, what do I need to do in order to get dpkg-buildpackage to do it? I would like to purge pgp soon. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9

Re: dh_link

1999-06-13 Thread Joseph Carter
This will install ChangeLog as /usr/doc/${PACKAGE}/changelog.gz and debian/changelog as changelog.Debian.gz => -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9445FBEThe

Re: version numbers

1999-05-18 Thread Joseph Carter
; > If an upstream package has problematic version numbers they should be > converted to a sane form for use in the Version' field. Did we EVER agree on a "sane form for use in the Version field"? =p -- Joseph Carte

Re: SSL & Non-SSL package from one source package

1999-05-17 Thread Joseph Carter
he standpoint of generating the packages. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9445FBEThe Source Comes First! - heh thats a lost caus

Re: non-US and RSAREF

1999-05-09 Thread Joseph Carter
S package. Can I still link against librsaref.a, even if I'm not in > the US? Or does someone from the US have to create the US package? Go ahead and link it for the US version. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8

Re: aptsearch program? anyone interested?

1999-05-03 Thread Joseph Carter
tion for availible packages. I'm such a > big tab completion freak. By the way, I did another optimization just > now and shaved 30% off its execution time (down to about 7 secs for > me.) Cool.. I'll be interested to try it when it's done.. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL P

Re: aptsearch program? anyone interested?

1999-05-03 Thread Joseph Carter
front end for the console might allow such exotic and practical searches... -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8EE22996C9445FBEThe Source Comes First! -

Re: Bug#35781: samba has no pristine source.

1999-04-14 Thread Joseph Carter
e some really really really old version of the packaging manual said > so? Said so when I signed up less than a year ago in fact. It was wrong, but it said so. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer PGP: E8D68481E3A8BB77 8E

Re: How to make a new release .deb?

1999-03-20 Thread Joseph Carter
es) is something like: $ cd package-1.1 $ zcat ../package_1.0-1.diff.gz | patch -p1 $ chmod +x debian/rules From here, if the patch was 100% successful, just edit the changelog and build a new package. Good luck. => -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Debian GNU/Linux developer P

Re: New lintian errors "compiled-with-bad-libc usr/sbin/rrlogind"

1999-03-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 08:30:37PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > E: rrlogind: compiled-with-bad-libc usr/sbin/rrlogind > E: rrlogind: compiled-with-bad-libc usr/sbin/rrconf Ignore these for glibc2.1, they will go away soon.. It's Now A Feature. -- Joseph Carter <[E

Re: should this list be renamed?

1999-03-11 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 03:00:56PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote: > > maybe dev-mentors might be better. > > > Lots of the posts on this list really belong on -user. Is it possible > > > that the word "mentors" attracts newbies? > > Or packaging-help? debia

Re: /usr/bin vs /usr/sbin

1999-02-23 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:47:57PM +0100, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > > > Sbin is for system run binaries, daemons, etc. This sounds > > > appropriate here. > > > sbin is for STATIC binaries. > > Please read section 3.10 of fsstnd (/usr/doc/debian-policy/fsstnd) > before you write something like th

Re: /usr/bin vs /usr/sbin

1999-02-23 Thread Joseph Carter
LTNT.. => On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 03:45:43AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: > > > Sbin is for system run binaries, daemons, etc. This sounds appropriate > > > here. > > > > sbin is for STATIC binaries. For some reason none of the Linux dists > > (unless slackware does and the knghtbrd package ha

Re: /usr/bin vs /usr/sbin

1999-02-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 03:45:43AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: > > > Sbin is for system run binaries, daemons, etc. This sounds appropriate > > > here. > > > > sbin is for STATIC binaries. For some reason none of the Linux dists > > (unless slackware does and the knghtbrd package has a memleak)

Re: /usr/bin vs /usr/sbin

1999-02-22 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 11:54:00PM -0500, Shaleh wrote: > > I'm working on packaging fakebo, which is a utility for logging the > > activities of the (windows-based) BackOrifice and NetBus trojans. In > > it's original makefile it installed to /usr/local/bin, which I've > > changed to $(DESTDIR)/u

Re: Which targets are mandatory in debian/rules?

1999-02-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 01:24:51PM +, Jules Bean wrote: > Any package which uses the GNU toolchain can be build in multiple > directories like this: > > mkdir debian/build-no-x; cd debian/build-no-x; ../../configure --disable-x > make [..] epic4 doesn't build this way and it uses autoconf at

Re: Package replacement

1998-12-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 04:12:36AM -0500, Zephaniah E, Hull wrote: > > BTW, A better place to ask might be the debian-mentors mailing list.. > > *blushes* > Errrm, ignore that line please, remind me to look at what group I'm > reading next time? /me bops Mercury -- NO ONE expects the Spanish In

Re: My `Section' and `Priority' lines have gone missing?

1998-12-19 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 09:15:38AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > : about his package. It's not been depreciated, just that many perfer > > DEPRECATED, dammit, not depreciated. The former means what you meant, > the latter is generally an economic term. > > Sorry, but that's one of my pet pee

Re: My `Section' and `Priority' lines have gone missing?

1998-12-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 12:19:10PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > Note that deb-make is deprecated. Have a look at the debhelper and > > > dh-make packages instead. > > > > Don't say that where Santiago can here you.. => He's rather defensive > > about his package. It's not been depreciated

Re: My `Section' and `Priority' lines have gone missing?

1998-12-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 05:27:06PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > Don't say that where Santiago can here you.. => Or hear you either, eek. -- Sig du jour!

Re: My `Section' and `Priority' lines have gone missing?

1998-12-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 06:33:59PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > I didn't add `Section' and `Priority' lines for the binary package > > (because deb-make didn't put it in initially): > > Note that deb-make is deprecated. Have a look at the debhelper and > dh-make packages instead. Don't say th

Re: Upgrading the Standards-Version

1998-12-10 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 04:10:23PM +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote: > > Is there any simple way to decide if a package is eligible for > Standards-Version upgrading, without checking every detail of the Policy? > Is a Lintian check enough? /usr/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.text.gz seems

Re: A few new-maintainer questions.

1998-12-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 07:17:51PM -0500, Zephaniah E, Hull wrote: > 1: What is a good way for handling the version fields to reflect that > the upstream version is a beta? In this case the upstream version is > 1.05beta10, leaving me with a bit of a problem (for when 1.05 is > actually released)..

Re: Compiling own system

1998-11-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 08:41:22PM +, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:54:15 +0100, you wrote: > >How important for system's security is having system installed from self > >compiled packages? Some time ago a friend asked me, how many of packacges do > >I > >have compiled by me, and

Re: man page

1998-10-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Oct 24, 1998 at 08:26:33AM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > | I've got a package that has no man page. I've some spare time > | and would like to write it. The question is now: how should I do > | that? What tools do you recommend? Where should I start reading > | about these tools? > > A

Re: version numbering vor beta releases

1998-10-01 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 02:51:23PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > I want to make a programm version 2.0, but I want to release some > betas before this. What version scheme should I use for the betas, so > that dpkg recognises the 2.0 release to be newer than the betas? At this time, there is

Re: wmakerconf in slink

1998-09-20 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Sep 20, 1998 at 07:38:15AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Hi Enrico, > > On Fri, Sep 18, 1998 at 10:04:32AM +0200, Enrico Cherubini wrote: > > Hi, > > I DL'ed gnome and wmaker (and related libs) and wmakerconf and iinstalled > > them yesterday...I have to say you that there is a pro

"Official CD" screwups (Was: Why only one non-free section?)

1998-09-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 09:27:10AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Raul> But note that contrib is being packaged as an official part of > > Debian. > > > > A small nit. It is being packaged on the official CD, but is > > not an official part of Debian. > > I have the LSL Ofiicial CD a

Re: lintian

1998-09-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 10:30:30AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > Where is Lintian packaged .. or is it? I can't seem to find it via dselect on > my Hamm CDs lintian is a slink thing. > Same with qmail. qmail-src is in non-free on the ftp site. pgpF7q4ZfMnDr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why only one non-free section?

1998-09-12 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 12:41:17AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > We don't WANT to make it easy to use non-free software, which is why we > > haven't split non-free. We don't want to make it unreasonably hard either, > > which is why we allow non-free and contrib sections to begin with. We just >

Re: Why only one non-free section?

1998-09-11 Thread Joseph Carter
This has come up before. It was decided then that non-free is there because it is software that is NOT part of Debian. Essentially, being placed in non-free which is hard to package on CD-ROM is the price these packages pay for being non-free. We don't WANT to make it easy to use non-free softwa

Re: New maintainer's packaging - bewildering variety of information

1998-08-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Aug 16, 1998 at 12:17:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I am biased about this, so my rationale might not be the best > thing to look for. But the bottom line is that you should do what is > right for you, and the majority of people start out by using > debhelper or equivalent.

Re: afterstep modules

1998-07-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 10:11:03AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > Both versions of afterstep provide asclock, wharf, etc. They are even > ^^^ > There's a debian package for Asclock > 1.0R10. I *do* think afterstep

afterstep modules

1998-07-31 Thread Joseph Carter
I've been working ont the afterstep-classic package and am almost done with it now. I've renamed most everything so that it cannot interfere with the standard afterstep package under active development and have hit a snag. The manpages for the modules.. I can't just rename the directory they go

Re: circular depends: problem

1998-07-19 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jul 18, 1998 at 06:34:26PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > E-themes does not have a Changelog or a Copyright --> it is just pics, > > wavs and a text file or three. The docs from E explain what they are > > If you really don't have a copyright, it cannot go in debian. If it's distributed by

Re: circular depends: problem

1998-07-18 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jul 18, 1998 at 04:00:27PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > It makes more sense for the symlink to exist. The /usr/doc/e-themes > > directory would be a waste of inodes. > > No it would not not. A symlink and gratuitous dependency for the sake > of ``saving some inodes'' *IS* broken. You d

Re: 2 packages using same conffile

1998-07-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 02:53:30PM -0400, Adam P. Harris wrote: > > In general, irc-common does seem kinda ugly. > > If there's reason, we could try to get it into a required package, > probably base-files. It's really just the irc serverlist. There are several ircII derivatives and all of them

Re: debstd trouble with multi-binary package

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 03:25:40PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > JC> /usr/doc/debhelper/from-debstd > > JC> It raised another though: The result of following these instructions > showed > JC> me a LOT of things to add to debian/rules. Most of them aren't used > in this > JC> package. How

Re: 2 packages using same conffile

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 07:25:28AM -0600, James LewisMoss wrote: > Joseph> I could create the file in postinst if it doesn't exist, but > Joseph> this seems like a Bad Idea for many reasons. Is there > Joseph> really no Right Way to do this except to leave them as two > Joseph> seperate files

Re: 2 packages using same conffile

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 03:43:17AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > I could create the file in postinst if it doesn't exist, but this seems like > > a Bad Idea for many reasons. Is there really no Right Way to do this > > except to leave them as two seperate files and have the user deal with it > > how

Re: debstd trouble with multi-binary package

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Jul 05, 1998 at 07:21:43AM +, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 11:40:11PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > debstd is depricated, use the debhelper instead. > > I've seen several messages on this line, but I have to say it's not entirely > help

2 packages using same conffile

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
What does one do in a situation where two packages both provide the same conffile? Currently they use different names for the file, but both packages can (and probably should) use the same file. How should this be handled, both from a policy and from an implementation standpoint? I could create

Re: debstd trouble with multi-binary package

1998-07-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 11:40:11PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > debstd is depricated, use the debhelper instead. I've seen several messages on this line, but I have to say it's not entirely helpful. I've discovered debstd does a LOT today. The package I'm looking at which uses it I'd like to c

Re: fpc - best way to package?

1998-06-20 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
Not to followup my own message, BUT. The install.sh is attached to this message as it should have been to the last one. install.sh Description: Bourne shell script pgpYgitG43YQY.pgp Description: PGP signature

fpc - best way to package?

1998-06-19 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
I've been toying with how I might best package Free Pascal for Debian. So far as I can tell, the upstream package does a fair job at putting files in their proper places, but the distribution is going to make it a little crazy to package. fpc is distributed in the file fpc-0.99.5.ELF.tar which co

Re: Greetings and RHIDE

1998-05-01 Thread Rev . Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 10:56:13PM +0100, Boriel wrote: > c) Parts of the sources are property of Borland international (Turbo > Vision :( Borland does not allow its distribuition). Umm, is it written in C or pascal? I'm guessing C because of the DOS and Linux issue.. If you can get the auth

Re: Uploaded guile-doc 1998.04.14-1 (source all) to master

1998-04-19 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 09:14:19AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: [date releases] > > ... it's a legal version number. I find it easier to read an ISO > 8601 date encoded release number with the dots in it than one without > them, so I use the dot breaks. It's an aesthetic thing. The most > s