RE: rpath (was Re: Two questions about policy)

2000-10-06 Thread arto . astala
If you want to use rpath then you might want to check it with somebody with experience in security (Debian security team?), I think one of the arguments was about security. I may be totally off here, but IIRC rpath also checks an environment variable and this is considered very insecure. HTH t.aa

RE: rpath (was Re: Two questions about policy)

2000-10-06 Thread arto . astala
If you want to use rpath then you might want to check it with somebody with experience in security (Debian security team?), I think one of the arguments was about security. I may be totally off here, but IIRC rpath also checks an environment variable and this is considered very insecure. HTH t.a

RE: how to package gocr

2000-08-28 Thread arto . astala
I believe some similar cases have been handled earlier by suggests type dependencies. The reasoning is: - the main functionality does not require wish, so it must not be required - recommends is also a bit heavy handed for this, the package is perfectly usable without it (i.e. no functionalit

RE: how to package gocr

2000-08-28 Thread arto . astala
I believe some similar cases have been handled earlier by suggests type dependencies. The reasoning is: - the main functionality does not require wish, so it must not be required - recommends is also a bit heavy handed for this, the package is perfectly usable without it (i.e. no functionali

RE: Bugs against Helix package in Debian BTS

2000-08-02 Thread arto . astala
Hey Christian, this guy is doing you a *favor*, and you are being rude to him. If the bug is upstream, then it should be easy for you to know if you have corrected it when you packaged the stuff. Then you can close the bug with explanation: corrected in patch xx, which was forwarded upstream 2000

RE: Bugs against Helix package in Debian BTS

2000-08-02 Thread arto . astala
Hey Christian, this guy is doing you a *favor*, and you are being rude to him. If the bug is upstream, then it should be easy for you to know if you have corrected it when you packaged the stuff. Then you can close the bug with explanation: corrected in patch xx, which was forwarded upstream 200

RE: License and section

1999-12-07 Thread arto . astala
For licensing issues you probably should use -legal instead of -mentors. Technically it is a modification to package it for Debian. Do you think you have permission to: - produce one shot package for Debian - package this release for Debian *and* maintain the packaging part in the future - packa

RE: Redundant code for non-us?

1999-11-16 Thread arto . astala
The package in question was curl. Root of this discussion: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-mentors-9908/msg00059.html the messages supporting my opinion: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-mentors-9908/msg00074.html http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-mentors-9908/m

RE: Build-Depends question re: yacc, ctags, etc.

1999-11-12 Thread arto . astala
If you know, or suspect, that some might not do then make that knowledge explicit (at least by not listing all similar packages). All the packages providing *tags are probably pretty equivalent, but yacc, byacc, bison etc. have differences that mean that some grammars are not acceptable to all of t

RE: Redundant code for non-us?

1999-11-12 Thread arto . astala
iirc this exact situation was discussed rather recently with some other package, and the result was that there is one /main source archive. The division to '/us' and /non-us is not important, especially now when apt can hide it from the user. This would imply one source in /non-us and two binaries

RE: Bug#49816: sysvinit shouldn't remove /var/run/dhcpcd-*.pid at startup

1999-11-11 Thread arto . astala
The original bug report says: Since `dhcpcd' is executed at startup (in /etc/init.d/dhcpcd or /etc/init.d/networking) before /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, these files are removed during bootmisc.sh. So the problem is that perfectly valid startup of dhcpcd is later screwed up by bootmisc.sh which

RE: /usr/lib

1999-10-28 Thread arto . astala
/usr/share may not be even if /usr/sbin is, since it is meant for stuff that can be shared for multiple machines over network and can be mounted from another machine. Is portsentry run before or after mounting network mounts? Is it security critical and should work even if network mount fails? t.

RE: CPU specific binaries

1999-10-21 Thread arto . astala
All this comes out of thin air, but here goes: * I think that currently the goal is to support the highest optimization that does not hurt (noticeably) the low end machines. I think this includes Pentium optimizations, but naturally none of the instruction set extensions. Optimization

RE: C++ help

1999-09-29 Thread arto . astala
Hi, I think you are requested to give return type of the function that implements the operator += e.g. void operator+=(const FGString& other); and no, upstream orphaning is not a requirement to orphan it in Debian. t.aa Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed Sept 29, 1999 12:28 PM >

RE: Really, Really, Really Old Bugs

1999-09-10 Thread arto . astala
There are many schools of thought on handling bugs like these in Debian. There even has been some bug wars of closing and reopening the same bug repeatedly, because of these differences. So, there is no right answer, everybody just Does The Right Thing and hopes it will be accepted. That said, whe

RE: multiple binary packages (again)

1999-08-23 Thread arto . astala
When non-US was divided into non-US/main etc. it was decreed, that /main & non-US/main together are the free part, as determined by license. Placement into /main or non-US/main is determined by export control laws which have no bearing on licenses. So it is perfectly permissible to have in /main a

RE: score files for games

1999-07-08 Thread arto . astala
Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On: Thursday, July 08, 1999 12:04 PM > [...] > The source contains a gif image, do I have to remove that or > ask the author > to convert it to something "better"? The image itself is not > needed, its just ... there. GIF format is not restricted, nor re

RE: maint-doc and dh_make

1999-06-30 Thread arto . astala
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 30. June 1999 6:35 > [in response to Bradley Bell] > There's nothing stopping you from using a different > copyright. Many rules > files do. Yes but not all combinations of copyrights are compatible. > (Which brings up a point - most debhelper rules files claim t

RE: CDROM

1999-03-08 Thread arto . astala
> From: Raul Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CDROM > [...] > [3] what Debian 2.0.2? [am I missing something? 2.0 is > hamm, but what's > 2.0.2? Something based on hamm-updates?] correct verbiage for this is probably Debian 2.0r2 (r5 came out this year) t.aa

Re: is this a bashism?

1999-01-04 Thread Arto Astala
Joey Hess wrote: > > Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > This is irrelevant to you original question, but I really prefer to > > use the POSIX 'command' command in order to determine whether an > > executable exists on the path. I feel it is problematic to hard-code > > paths into scripts, and any way to

Re: Rebuild process

1998-12-14 Thread Arto Astala
Julian Gilbey wrote: > [...] > Erm, yes, forgot that bit!! > > You must check that you can do the following successfully, and that > the package works after you have done each one: > > (a) Upgrade from the previous version and from the version in hamm. > (b) Downgrade back again. > (c) Install th

Re: Deb structure - general question

1998-11-22 Thread Arto Astala
I don't know either. Did he mention any system where matters are better? Had he any more specific comments? Did he mean source packages or binary packages or both? Here are some guesses, however: - the (source) package does not document the required environment to make package building repeatab

Re: Source code location?

1998-11-18 Thread Arto Astala
sgb-doc sounds like a *good* idea t.aa Julian Gilbey wrote: > Julian: > > aa: > > > My 'crucial questions' would be: > > > - is the amount of documentation (prose) significantly larger > > > than > > >that of code (apparently, otherwise there would not be the > > > book) > > > > Compiled code

Re: Source code location?

1998-11-17 Thread Arto Astala
Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Gilbey) writes: > >[Me] > >> Hmm. Interesting. So how do you use it? You *extend* the library? > >> Or you just read about it? ;) > > > [...] (In fact, it's so readable that it's > > been published as a book.

Re: Skeleton maintainer scripts

1998-04-06 Thread Arto Astala
Adam P. Harris writes:> > Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >[...] > > # I've attempted to document all the cases as best I can. What's more, > > # I even have reason to believe this script works! It does nothing, > > # but if you replace the lines with a `:' at the left margin

Re: quake2 config file conflict handling

1998-03-05 Thread Arto Astala
Roderick:> > [...] > its own purpose. I'll have to rename my configuration file. > [...] > Are there cases I should be handling which this ignores? downgrades t.aa

Re: adduser necessary ?

1998-02-05 Thread Arto Astala
Sascha:> > Hi all, > > I've got a question regarding to majordomo which I am right packaging. > majordomo got Debian-allocated uid and gid, is it necessary for postinst to If you depend on the right version of base-passwd you can be *fairly* sure that majordomo exists with right uid and gid > c

Re: sendfax from mgetty-fax dumps core

1998-01-28 Thread Arto Astala
David Goodwin:> > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:29:25 +0100 "Nathan L. Cutler" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > >Once there's a lower-volume alternative to debian-user (last time I checked > >it was producing well over 100 messages a day), I'll subscribe to it. I > >apologize for sending inappropriate