Re: RFS: tvbrowser -- TV-Browser is a java-based TV guide

2005-08-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
Last I checked you can't distribute parts of Sun's java anyway, only the *precise* installer files provided by Sun. You're not even allowed to stuff the installer inside a .deb package. Blackdown had to get explicit permission from Sun to distribute their versi

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:25:43AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:02:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Have you tried http://bugs.qa.debian.org/? > > > > htt

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
in/standard.cgi says that bison has 3 serious bugs. Page discarded as useless due to wanton inaccuracy. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK pgpAWnrPLdXZZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
hat bison has 3 serious bugs. Page discarded as useless due to wanton inaccuracy. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
gt; SL> arch-independent and arch-dependent objects. > > Doesn't apply to Ruby. "Ruby sucks". Ignore it. Arch-indep to share, arch-dep to lib, screw everything else. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
gt; SL> arch-independent and arch-dependent objects. > > Doesn't apply to Ruby. "Ruby sucks". Ignore it. Arch-indep to share, arch-dep to lib, screw everything else. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http

Re: mplayer in debian ( versus new-maintainer )

2002-10-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
at has a GPL license attached. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK

Re: mplayer in debian ( versus new-maintainer )

2002-10-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
at has a GPL license attached. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Some problems with automake/autoconf

2002-10-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
gure determines it > automatically, not so? Not when cross-compiling, no. And since it's harmless enough the rest of the time, debian packages can (and generally should) let dpkg-architecture decide what to use, not config.guess. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux **

Re: Some problems with automake/autoconf

2002-10-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
e determines it > automatically, not so? Not when cross-compiling, no. And since it's harmless enough the rest of the time, debian packages can (and generally should) let dpkg-architecture decide what to use, not config.guess. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** |

Re: Use of the BTS for managing sponsorship

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
That is not an argument for using debbugs on master. Moreover, _none_ of the above points are arguments specifically to use the BTS, they could equally apply to all kinds of other systems. So far this has been an exercise in sophistry. -- .''`.

Re: Use of the BTS for managing sponsorship

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
That is not an argument for using debbugs on master. Moreover, _none_ of the above points are arguments specifically to use the BTS, they could equally apply to all kinds of other systems. So far this has been an exercise in sophistry. -- .''`.

Re: developer vs user wants

2002-07-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
evelopers of limewire want to force people to view the ads, they must write this into the license (and we punt it to non-free), otherwise it is completely futile to try and make people do so. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debia

Re: developer vs user wants

2002-07-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
evelopers of limewire want to force people to view the ads, they must write this into the license (and we punt it to non-free), otherwise it is completely futile to try and make people do so. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debia

Re: gpg key validity question

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
nestly, > I don't believe DAM is that sloppy, and I wouldn't worry about it... > Given how often people complain about the process being slow, I think > it's clear that DAM takes the job very seriously :) Without firm identification, if he roots all the debian hosts an

Re: gpg key validity question

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
nestly, > I don't believe DAM is that sloppy, and I wouldn't worry about it... > Given how often people complain about the process being slow, I think > it's clear that DAM takes the job very seriously :) Without firm identification, if he roots all the debian hosts an

Re: /usr/libexec

2002-02-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
uld > go in /usr/(s)bin. s/Binaries/Architecture-dependent files/ s/run/use/g Double-check that the files really are architecture-dependent. If not, they belong in /usr/share. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.

Re: /usr/libexec

2002-02-15 Thread Andrew Suffield
uld > go in /usr/(s)bin. s/Binaries/Architecture-dependent files/ s/run/use/g Double-check that the files really are architecture-dependent. If not, they belong in /usr/share. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.

Re: Changes in a conffile

2002-02-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
ch add spurious extra warnings on top of this are INCREDIBLY annoying). -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- | London, UK

Re: Changes in a conffile

2002-02-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
which add spurious extra warnings on top of this are INCREDIBLY annoying). -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `- -><- |

Re: Applicant w/ package

2001-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
support and a > default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/L

Re: Applicant w/ package

2001-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
gui support and a > default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/L

Re: dupload oddities

2001-10-31 Thread Andrew Suffield
+ or something) and upload that. Most likely when building the first one you forgot to rename the .tar.gz to .orig.tar.gz. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial Co

Re: dupload oddities

2001-10-31 Thread Andrew Suffield
+ or something) and upload that. Most likely when building the first one you forgot to rename the .tar.gz to .orig.tar.gz. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `-http://www.debian.org/ | London, UK PGP signature

Re: lintian-warning copyright-lists-upstream-authors-like-dh_make

2001-10-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
ch shouldn't have the brackets there. Either there is one author, or multiple authors. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `-http://www.debian.org/ | London, UK pgpMeLD1765aP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: lintian-warning copyright-lists-upstream-authors-like-dh_make

2001-10-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
ch shouldn't have the brackets there. Either there is one author, or multiple authors. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `-http://www.debian.org/ | London, UK PGP signature

Re: New Developer.

2001-08-31 Thread Andrew Suffield
PROTECTED]> This person receives new application requests and passes them to appropriate Application Managers. This is "the contact of last resort" when other committee contacts fail to respond. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' :

Re: New Developer.

2001-08-31 Thread Andrew Suffield
PROTECTED]> This person receives new application requests and passes them to appropriate Application Managers. This is "the contact of last resort" when other committee contacts fail to respond. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew

Re: Tarball question

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
/LinuxDoc/DebianDoc are all easy to build. Anything else shouldn't be too hard either. There is nothing about SGML that requires any particular parsing engine be used, if it really is SGML and not just something like SGML. jade will probably do it. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Li

Re: How to assume packaging downgrade in hard case ?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
rade old-version' will success and this will make > beilive that downgrade is a success. > > (Remember, old is newer than new since it's a downgrade) You may just have to say that all prior versions are bugged in this respect and leave them alone, but from h

Re: Tarball question

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
/LinuxDoc/DebianDoc are all easy to build. Anything else shouldn't be too hard either. There is nothing about SGML that requires any particular parsing engine be used, if it really is SGML and not just something like SGML. jade will probably do it. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Li

Re: How to assume packaging downgrade in hard case ?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
rade old-version' will success and this will make > beilive that downgrade is a success. > > (Remember, old is newer than new since it's a downgrade) You may just have to say that all prior versions are bugged in this respect and leave them alone, but from h

Re: Alpha question

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
t now. > > dpkg-buildpackage does this, yes. I couldn't tell you what piece of the chain > it is that actually does the work. It caught me completely by (pleasant) > surprise the first time I saw this happen. I would imagine it is dpkg-genchanges, which looks in .. for any file

Re: How to assume packaging downgrade in hard case ?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
quires the package be --purged, reinstalled, and then a pre-upgrade version of the data files restored from backup media. Also warn during the upgrade of the package. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `&#x

Re: Alpha question

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
couldn't tell you what piece of the chain > it is that actually does the work. It caught me completely by (pleasant) > surprise the first time I saw this happen. I would imagine it is dpkg-genchanges, which looks in .. for any files which have been built from t

Re: How to assume packaging downgrade in hard case ?

2001-08-30 Thread Andrew Suffield
e requires the package be --purged, reinstalled, and then a pre-upgrade version of the data files restored from backup media. Also warn during the upgrade of the package. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Co

Re: /proc file system

2001-08-26 Thread Andrew Suffield
esn't depend on ipv4, but will probably break horribly if you don't have networking support in your kernel, along with most network daemon packages. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `.

Re: /proc file system

2001-08-26 Thread Andrew Suffield
esn't depend on ipv4, but will probably break horribly if you don't have networking support in your kernel, along with most network daemon packages. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `'

Re: gcc-3

2001-08-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
h both, but don't interfere with the local system default unless you have to. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK pgpWXkeb2ODX7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gcc-3

2001-08-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
h both, but don't interfere with the local system default unless you have to. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK PGP signature

Re: dpkg can't purge init script

2001-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
, actually, I shamelessly pasted an example out of the first postinst I had to hand and attempted to adapt it, which happened to be the one for dancer. I am clearly loosing the ability to think, so I will shut up now. s/ircd/server/ or something. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: dpkg can't purge init script

2001-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
y thing it could be. Your init.d script is failing and returning 1. It is bugged, fix it. Hint: --oknodo parameter to start-stop-daemon (look it up). > Is this a bug in debhelper ? Yes actually, it should be guarded with a -e: if [ -e "/etc/init.d/superviser-ircd" ]; then /etc/init.d/superviser-ircd stop fi However, this is not the problem here (wrong error message). (My debhelper guards it, I don't know why your's hasn't) -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK pgpPdyPCDZjWZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: dpkg can't purge init script

2001-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
gt; Yes, actually, I shamelessly pasted an example out of the first postinst I had to hand and attempted to adapt it, which happened to be the one for dancer. I am clearly loosing the ability to think, so I will shut up now. s/ircd/server/ or something. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: dpkg can't purge init script

2001-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
could be. Your init.d script is failing and returning 1. It is bugged, fix it. Hint: --oknodo parameter to start-stop-daemon (look it up). > Is this a bug in debhelper ? Yes actually, it should be guarded with a -e: if [ -e "/etc/init.d/superviser-ircd" ]; then /etc/init.d/superviser-ircd stop fi However, this is not the problem here (wrong error message). (My debhelper guards it, I don't know why your's hasn't) -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK PGP signature

Looking for sponsor

2001-07-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
I'm looking for somebody to sponsor an upload of blootbot, all the stuff is at http://asuffield.n3.net/debian -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK pgplUHOqfcSOl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Looking for sponsor

2001-07-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
I'm looking for somebody to sponsor an upload of blootbot, all the stuff is at http://asuffield.n3.net/debian -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK PGP signature

Re: using conditionals in autoconf/automake

2001-05-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
t `distclean' Use distclean-local and clean-local, read the texinfo docs on automake, section "Extending" (near the bottom). -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK pgpTvuQxZcaLz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: using conditionals in autoconf/automake

2001-05-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
t `distclean' Use distclean-local and clean-local, read the texinfo docs on automake, section "Extending" (near the bottom). -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK PGP signature

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can&#

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian,

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
a debian > package and was wondering if there are any objections? is there > already a maintainer? can this packet be debianized? It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't be legally redistributed in binary form. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PR

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
as a debian > package and was wondering if there are any objections? is there > already a maintainer? can this packet be debianized? It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't be legally redistributed in binary form. -- Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP signature