Re: securing netboot

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel Baumann
Ivan Shmakov wrote: Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and intruders? just adding to what others have already said: once we have brought live-initramfs 2.x in a reasonable state, it will be very easily extensib

Re: securing netboot

2009-11-17 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Tzafrir Cohen writes: >> Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is >> currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and >> intruders? > PXE is indeed inherently insecure. Well, it's not that bad when gPXE is considered: >> I see that even if the

Re: securing netboot

2009-11-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:44:38PM +0600, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is > currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and > intruders? PXE is indeed inherently insecure. > > I see that even if the gPXE opti

Re: securing netboot

2009-11-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Richard Nelson writes: >> Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is >> currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and >> intruders? [...] > Well you could use mac addresses and dhcp for some layer of security Unfortunately, the MAC addresses a

Re: securing netboot

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Nelson
Greetings, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >        Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is >        currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and >        intruders? > >        I see that even if the gPXE option to securily check the kern

securing netboot

2009-11-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Do I understand correctly that the netbooting Debian Live is currently inherently insecure against both eavesdroppers and intruders? I see that even if the gPXE option to securily check the kernel and initramfs images after downloading is used, NFS has still