Re: GPL v2/v3 ?

2008-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/3/6, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In my opinion, the decision boils down to: > > o if you want to enhance compatibility *and* you trust the FSF to > keep the promise that future versions of the GNU GPL will be "similar > in spirit to the present version"[2][3], then you may choo

Re: GPL v2/v3 ?

2008-03-06 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/3/5, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Rather, it would be "comunicación pública" instead of "distribución". > > Law translation is a very specialized field; there's a reason that the > various translations of the GPL on the FSF website are not legally binding. > National laws that red

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote about the bloody lunatic test: > > In that case and if the lunatic is truthful, no software under the GPL is > > free > > for 'you'. However, that's the fault of the lunatic and not the software or > > its licence. IMO th

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:35:11PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I could equally use that reasoning for the mandatory redistribution case. > > No software under that license is free for you, but that's the fault of the > > situation and not the license. The bug

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > It's pretty similar to the bloody lunatic test; the license says you > > can't distribute unless you follow some condition (distribute source/send > > changes off the island), but an external force having nothing to do with the > > author of the software forces

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Adam Borowski wrote: > Having a country non-free doesn't make a license non-free. In the chinese > dissident test the user chooses to fight against the bloody murderer (who > wears an uniform) -- he breaks unrelated laws, yet does not breach the > license in any way. A license

Re: GPL v2/v3 ?

2008-03-06 Thread Diggory Hardy
Thanks for your insight into Spanish law Miry & Steve. I did wonder what was wrong with the term "distribution" when v3 was written. I don't think this will put me off the GPL v2 though. > o if you want to enhance compatibility *and* you trust the FSF to > keep the promise that future versions

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > One can spot whether it's the fault of the licence in 99% of problems > > by asking whether a change to the licence could remove the problem. > > > > A change to the licence could allow desert island hacking. > > No ch

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Ben Finney
Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > consider this: if the bloody murderer will kill you if you reveal > your identity (dissident test) the license demanding you do so is > nonfree. But if the bloody murderer will kill you if you distribute > source, the license demanding you do so is fine.

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, MJ Ray wrote: > > No, that isn't true. A change to the license which says you don't need to > > include source would prevent the bloody murderer from being a problem, > > just like a change saying you don't need to send changes off the island > > would prevent the island from b

Re: Desert island test

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Ben Finney wrote: > > consider this: if the bloody murderer will kill you if you reveal > > your identity (dissident test) the license demanding you do so is > > nonfree. But if the bloody murderer will kill you if you distribute > > source, the license demanding you do so is fi