Re: GPL v3 Draft 3- text and comments

2007-04-03 Thread Gervase Markham
Francesco Poli wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:26:42 +0100 Gervase Markham wrote: I can't see any judge with a decent grasp of English or the notion of a "legal notice" or "author attribution" permitting the attachment of the GNU Manifesto to a work under this clause. Can you give a concrete ex

Re: Copyleft variation of MIT license

2007-04-03 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Suraj N. Kurapati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The MIT license has the following properties (from Ed Burnette's survey[3] of free software licenses): 1. Code is protected by copyright? Yes 2. Code can be used in closed source projects? Yes 3. Program that uses

Re: GPL v3 Draft 3- text and comments

2007-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:50:12 -0400 Joe Smith wrote: [...] > I think most courts do not rule on uncontested fact. This clause is > probably intended to > prevent EvilCorp(TM) from claiming that the work falls into that > class. The other party > is unlikely to contest that, claiming the work does

Re: Copyleft variation of MIT license

2007-04-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Don Armstrong wrote: > you are specifically restricting the distribution of binaries > beyond what the GPL restricts. Since the combination of code > under your license and the GPL cannot be distributed exactly > under the terms of the GPL, it cannot, as a consequence, be > distributed at all. I b

Re: Copyleft variation of MIT license

2007-04-03 Thread Gervase Markham
Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: I had been using the GPL for some years without fully understanding its implications. Recently, I spent some time thinking about my ethical beliefs regarding free software and discovered that I prefer something like Creative Commons' by-sa (attribution + share-alike) lice

Re: Copyleft variation of MIT license

2007-04-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Suraj N. Kurapati > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> The MIT license has the following properties (from Ed Burnette's >> survey[3] of free software licenses): >> >> 4. Source to bug fixes and modifications must be released? No >> >> I tried

Re: Copyleft variation of MIT license

2007-04-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Suraj N. Kurapati: > >> The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be >> included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. >> These copies and portions shall be distributed along with their >> source code. > >> Is that better? > > Perhaps,

Re: GPL v3 Draft 3- text and comments

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:50:12 -0400 Joe Smith wrote: [...] I think this stems from source code not requireing a patent license. So if the source code is available, the patent can be bypassed by having the consumer down

Re: GPL v3 Draft 3- text and comments

2007-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:17:42 +0100 Gervase Markham wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > I cannot depict a specific scenario off the top of my head, but my > > alarm bell rang as soon as I saw the word "preservation" coupled > > with undefined (and hence vague) terms as "reasonable legal notice

Re: GPL v3 Draft 3- text and comments

2007-04-03 Thread Gervase Markham
Francesco Poli wrote: Well, *when* I want a copyleft, I want one that *actually works*... Exemptions for specific incompatible licenses should be left out of the license text (so that who wants them can add them as additional permissions). *When* I choose the GNU GPL, I want to prevent my code f

Re: SleepyCat license - under "reasonable" conditions

2007-04-03 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > * "must be freely redistributable under these conditions" > > This establishes the conditions paragraph as the base requirements > for distribution of my code. However, I am afraid that this might > prevent people from releasing my code under a superset license... Ah! I