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Can the JRockit JVM go into non-free?

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
I've filed RFP 273693 about the JRockit virtual machine for Java. JRockit is definitely non-free, but what I'd like to know is whether the re-distribution agreement is good enough for it to go into non-free if someone wants to package it. I've attached the re-distribution license terms to "h

Re: Can the JRockit JVM go into non-free?

2004-10-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004, Johan Walles wrote: > I've filed RFP 273693 about the JRockit virtual machine for Java. > JRockit is definitely non-free, but what I'd like to know is whether > the re-distribution agreement is good enough for it to go into non-free > if someone wants to package it. > > I'

JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
I'm unforturnately unable to post the license agreement in text format to either this list or to the RFP; it seems as if it gets eaten by a spam-filter along the way. I've contacted the listmaster though, so we'll see what happens. In the mean time I'll be happy to send my textified version o

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Mércores, 6 de Outubro de 2004 ás 04:24:31 -0700, Johan Walles escribía: > Also, since I'm really unsure about what the requirements actually are to > get into non-free, is the EULA forbidding re-distribution a show-stopper? > I guessed that as long as Debian was allowed to redistribute, forbid

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
But wouldn't that be covered by paragraph 2.1? " 2.1 Distribution License. BEA grants Distributor a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to (i) Reproduce and bundle or otherwise include the Software together with the Value Added Solution, and (ii) sublicense and distribute the Software, ei

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As for the signing, that only has to be done by one Debian > representative. There is no such thing - Debian is not a legal entity, so nobody is qualified to sign legal stuff on its behalf. -- Henning Makholm"Vi skal nok ikke begynde at un

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
In any case, that would create a Debian-specific license, which isn't even enough for non-free. Johan: if you can get BEA to license it under terms which amount to "Begin license. Any recipient may distribute this code without royalty. End of License." then it can go in non-free. But that's a p

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
AFAIU, this could be a show-stopper. I'm working on having the EULA changed, but I'll have to get back to you if / when this happens. //Johan -Original Message- From: Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: 06 Oc

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
-Original Message- From: Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:21:14 -0400 Subject: Re: JRockit in non-free, part II In any case, that would create a D

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Johan Walles
Gotcha. Looks like a show-stopper to me. //Johan -Original Message- From: Brian M. Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Sent: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:59:28 + Subject: Re: JRockit in non-free, part II Johan Walles <[EMAIL PR

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Johan: if you can get BEA to license it under terms which amount to > "Begin license. Any recipient may distribute this code without > royalty. End of License." then it can go in non-free. But that's a > pretty basic requirement even for non-f

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -Original Message- > From: Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; debian-legal@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:21:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: JRockit in n

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Johan: if you can get BEA to license it under terms which amount to >> "Begin license. Any recipient may distribute this code without >> royalty. End of License." then it can go in non-free. But

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Huh? I have always understood that there were only two criteria for > > going into non-free: > > 1. That the Debian mirror network can legally distribute the source > > and binary packages.

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> In any case, that would create a Debian-specific license, which isn't > >> even enough for non-free. > > Why not? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand why > > this would be so? > Be

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Huh? I have always understood that there were only two criteria for >> > going into non-free: > >> > 1. That the Debian mirror network can legally

Re: OpenOffice.org (LGPL) and hspell (GPL)

2004-10-06 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Josh Triplett wrote: > I think the ideal solution would be to change hspell so that it can > build outside of the OO.o source tree; as far as I know, it is OK to > have some GPLed and some non-free plugins for the same LGPLed program, > as long as they are not all distributed together. The hs

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Yes. But there is no need for the package to be distributable in any > > other context than a mirror of the Debian archive. > Sure there is -- in the context of a partial mirror, for example, or > in the context of a

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Johan Walles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >> In any case, that would create a Debian-specific license, which isn't >> >> even enough for non-free. > >> > Why not? I'm not saying you're wrong, I

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib

2004-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:00:25PM +0200, Bruno Haible wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > lib/atanl.c > > lib/logl.c > > If you look into the glibc CVS log of sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128/s_atanl.c > and sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128/e_logl.c, you see that the copyright holder > (Stephen Moshier) has gi

Re: JRockit in non-free, part II

2004-10-06 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:24:31AM -0700, Johan Walles wrote: > I'm unforturnately unable to post the license agreement in text format > to either this list or to the RFP; it seems as if it gets eaten by a > spam-filter along the way. I've contacted the listmaster though, so > we'll see what ha

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib

2004-10-06 Thread Paul Eggert
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For these borrowed files from other GNU or free software projects, I think we > still need an explicit note in the files distributed as part of gnulib. OK, let's start with atanl.c and logl.c. I see that glibc has fixed this problem by adding a proper

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib / m4

2004-10-06 Thread Bruno Haible
Paul Eggert wrote: > > The purpose of the "special exception" clause is so that also non-GPLed > > packages can use autoconfiguration. > > Yes. However, that purpose doesn't apply to GPLed modules, as they > can't be linked with non-GPLed packages. But since *.m4 files are often copied from one m

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib

2004-10-06 Thread Paul Eggert
To fix diacrit.h and diacrit.c I installed the obvious patch: 2004-10-06 Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * diacrit.c, diacrit.h: Add GPL notice. Index: diacrit.c === RCS file: /cvsroot/gnulib/gnulib/lib/diacrit.c,v retriev

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib

2004-10-06 Thread Paul Eggert
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know how does copyright law apply to auto-generated programs. Maybe > debian-legal can offer advice on this. The answer is "it depends", so let me give a few more details about the file in question, so that debian-legal knows what we're talking

SPIN Public license

2004-10-06 Thread eddyp
Hello all, I am planning to package an application covered by the Spin Public License. Could you tell me if this : http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/what/spin/SPIN_public_license.txt is a free or non-free license? Please CC me as I am not on the list. -- Regards, EddyP

Re: SPIN Public license

2004-10-06 Thread Josh Triplett
eddyp wrote: > I am planning to package an application covered by the Spin Public License. > > Could you tell me if this : > http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/what/spin/SPIN_public_license.txt > > is a free or non-free license? In general, when requesting that debian-legal review a license, it is pr

Re: [Bug-gnulib] missing licenses in gnulib

2004-10-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 09:05:51AM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: > > dirfd.h is just dirent boilerplate code plus two trivial #if blocks. > Not worth worrying about, imho. The guts are in dirfd.m4. > getpagesize.h was factored out of GPL'd code. > I've added a copyright notice to each of those. Loo

Re: OpenOffice.org (LGPL) and hspell (GPL)

2004-10-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Rene Engelhard wrote: > Josh Triplett wrote: >>I think the ideal solution would be to change hspell so that it can >>build outside of the OO.o source tree; as far as I know, it is OK to >>have some GPLed and some non-free plugins for the same LGPLed program, >>as long as they are not all distribute

Re: SPIN Public license

2004-10-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004, eddyp wrote: > I am planning to package an application covered by the Spin Public License. > > is a free or non-free license? This license is not DFSG Free, and is most likely not suitable for inclusion in non-free either. It was most recently discussed here: http://people