Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-10-10 01:19:34 +0100 Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MySQL's interface library was changed to GPL, from LGPL. This isn't a no- commecial-use (which would be non-free), but it has the same effect in most cases. Please do not make such misleading statements. There are many c

Re: GFDL and Anonymity --- another problem?

2003-10-10 Thread Joe Moore
Mathieu Roy said: > A license is valid because there is a known copyright holder that > explicitely said that his work can be distributed under this license. > > "0. This License applies to any program or other work which > contains a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:03:35PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > Basically, since we are _not_ modifying source to any software, I had > always thought that this is a slam-dunk. However, once I read that > MySQL page, I have doubts. Am I misinterpreting it? You should be aware that that page

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 02:01:36PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > Also, in order to manage problems and maintain SLA's, this software is > to be sold as an integral piece of a system -- somewhat of a blackbox. > In other words, their customers will pay one basic price, and receive an > installed

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long > as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. > Once I read the MySQL licensing page, I have doubts. Eh? Whether you've modified

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread MJ Ray
On 2003-10-10 02:10:24 +0100 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. Once I read the MySQL licensing page, I have doubts. MySQL would surely like

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Michael D Schleif
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:10:22:25:34+1000] scribed: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long > > as we do not modify source code, GPL allows distribution of this sort. > > Once

Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
I recently did an ITP for swiss-ephemeris which computes astronomical and astrological data. Nobody commented then and it looked ok to me however James rejected it with the following comment: > I'm a little concerned about the license on this software, in > particular, this phrase: > > "without

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:10:22:25:34+1000] scribed: >> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:10:24PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> > As I commented in response to David, I had always assumed that, so long >> > as we do not modify source

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nobody commented then and it looked ok to me however > James rejected it with the following comment: > > I'm a little concerned about the license on this software, in > > particular, this phrase: > > "without any charge beyond the costs of data t

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > If you do not meet the requirements in the SEPL, for example if > - you develop and distribute software which is sold for a fee higher than a > reasonable copy charge > - or/and you develop and distribute software which is not published under an > O

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Henning Makholm wrote: > Clause 6 is non-free according to the DFSG because of the phrase you > cite; it prohibits distribution for profit. I read that clause slightly differently... the 'without any charge beyond the costs of data transfer' seems only to apply to the source c

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Dylan Thurston
On 2003-10-10, Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Nobody commented then and it looked ok to me however >> James rejected it with the following comment: > >> > I'm a little concerned about the license on this software, in >> > particular,

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Clause 6 is non-free according to the DFSG because of the phrase you > > cite; it prohibits distribution for profit. > I read that clause slightly differently... the 'without any charge > beyond the costs

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: >> If you do not meet the requirements in the SEPL, for example if >> - you develop and distribute software which is sold for a fee higher than a >> reasonable copy charge >> - or/and you develop and distribu

Re: Licensing requirements ???

2003-10-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 03:17:19PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > Hmm, there's one point here that others haven't mentioned yet. The > SLAs should not forbid the customers from making modifications to > the GPLed software, because that would contradict section 6 ("You > may not impose any furthe

Re: Swiss Ephemeris Public License

2003-10-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
Summary: The licence appears DFSG-free, although it could be more tightly written to make that a bit clearer. The preamble, however, is either really badly worded, or shows that the authors interpret the licence to be non-free. If we go just based on the licence text, then I think you're OK. But

Re: Japanese font license problem

2003-10-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Let me add some reference information. All these issue started from this web page and there is a English version of web page available by an extra one-click. http://khdd.net/kanou/fonts/stolenbitmap.html Also this site has some reference to the previous Japanese case: "Compensation was granted