Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op do 21-08-2003, om 07:09 schreef Branden Robinson: > I am circulating this survey to gauge the level of consensus on this > subject. > > The purpose of this survey is so that the participants in this mailing > list can make an informed recommendation to the rest of the Debian > Project. > > Ple

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2,

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread iain d broadfoot
* Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Walter Landry
> Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foundation, is not a

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Jeremy Hankins
=== CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published by the Free Software Foundation, is

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Ryan
> === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Softwar

Re: Should our documentation be free?

2003-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> There clearly is a difference, otherwise we wouldn't need two words >> for the concept. > > Umm, the presence of synonyms is not necesarily proof of a > difference. Heh. Ignore my statement. It's not particularly brilliant.[1] > If you feel so str

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Sergey Spiridonov
Branden Robinson wrote: I am circulating this survey to gauge the level of consensus on this subject. The purpose of this survey is so that the participants in this mailing list can make an informed recommendation to the rest of the Debian Project. Please reply to this message, to this mailing

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Simon Law
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Bob Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2,

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Doug Winter
On Thu 21 Aug Branden Robinson wrote: > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith
=== CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published by the Free Software Foundation, is n

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Xoves, 21 de Agosto de 2003 ás 00:09:54 -0500, Branden Robinson escribía: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Do

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Joerg Wendland
> Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foundation, is not a

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread John Goerzen
Before I reply, I should add I still see it as wrong and misleading to apply *software* guidelines to *documentation*, which to me are fundamentally different beasts. Thus, I see the question as rather misleading. However, with the question narrowly framed as it is, regarding applying the DFSG to

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Peter Makholm
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2,

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
Branden Robinson wrote: (not signed because I don't have my key on this machine) > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foundation, is not a license compatible > with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Works under this >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Michael Schultheiss
Branden Robinson wrote: > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Softw

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Florian Weimer
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Joel Baker
> > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foundation, is no

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread christophe barbe
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
Joerg Wendland wrote: >> [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >> by the Free Software Foundation, is a license compatible >> with the Debian Free Software Guidelines. In general, works >> under this license would require no additional pe

Re: Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:33:37PM -0400, Walter Landry wrote: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200305/msg00092.html > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I once had a big old nasty flamewar with the FTP admins that > > was tangentially related to this point

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:09:54 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [X] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2

Re: Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:44:57PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > > My next post to -devel-announce will discuss some of these finer details. > > In short, some members of the FSF have asked for us to give them some > > more time to come up with a GFDL that's DFSG-free

[DISCUSSION] SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:07:20AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Before I reply, I should add I still see it as wrong and misleading to apply > *software* guidelines to *documentation*, which to me are fundamentally > different beasts. Thus, I see the question as rather misleading. Which question?

[DISCUSSION] SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:27:22PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I have answered under the assumption that the license is applied to > software (and not documentation, which is the common case), since this > seems to be what you have asked for. No; please reread the statements. I said "works"; n

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Romain FRANCOISE
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published >

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Bdale Garbee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Branden Robinson) writes: > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Document

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Jonerik Sjölander
=== CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published by the Free Software Foundati

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 21/08/2003 à 07:09, Branden Robinson a écrit : > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, ve

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread paul cannon
> === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Softwar

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Joerg Wendland
Matthew Garrett, on 2003-08-21, 16:13, you wrote: > Oh, now, come on. The GFDL plainly /isn't/ compatible with the DFSG. > Whether or not it /has/ to be compatible with the DFSG in order to be in > Debian is an entirely separate issue, but the above is obviously not > true. I was asked for my opin

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your opinion. Mark only one. [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published by the Free Software Foundation, is not a license compa

Re: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Joerg Wendland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Matthew Garrett, on 2003-08-21, 16:13, you wrote: >> Oh, now, come on. The GFDL plainly /isn't/ compatible with the DFSG. >> Whether or not it /has/ to be compatible with the DFSG in order to be in >> Debian is an entirely separate issue, but the above

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Russ Allbery
> === CUT HERE === > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foun

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Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
|| On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:07:20 -0500 || John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jg> Before I reply, I should add I still see it as wrong and misleading to apply jg> *software* guidelines to *documentation*, which to me are fundamentally jg> different beasts. Thus, I see the question as ra

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Matthew Garrett
Joerg Wendland wrote: >I was asked for my opinion, here it is. I feel the GFDL is "free enough" >for my heart does not beat for the bureaucratic following of iron rules >but for the sake of our users. And our users are not just the readers of >GFDL-licensed documentation but also their authors, an

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Aug 21, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as publi

SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
I am circulating this survey to gauge the level of consensus on this subject. The purpose of this survey is so that the participants in this mailing list can make an informed recommendation to the rest of the Debian Project. Please reply to this message, to this mailing list, answering the questi

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread M. Drew Streib
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread David Schleef
> === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Softwar

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Stafford
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:09:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 00:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, ver

Re: Should our documentation be free? (Was Re: Inconsistencies in our approach)

2003-08-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: > I see no need (but it is still possible) to have a very exact line > between program and documentation. There's no need for such a line if and only if we don't make a distinction between the freedoms that documentation must have, and the freedoms

Re: Should our documentation be free?

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:03:37 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > First off, sorry for starting off an old discussion. I've been away > for the past two weeks. [If any one cares, there are pictures > available on my website.] > On Wed, 06 Aug 2003, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote: >> So,

Re: Documentation and Sarge's Release Critical Policy

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:33:37 -0400 (EDT), Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:14:45 -0400 (EDT), Walter Landry >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > The .orig.tar.gz files only have to be purged of non-free stuff >> > if tha

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Mark Rafn
> === CUT HERE === > > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Softwar

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Branden Robinson wrote: Please reply to this message, to this mailing list, answering the questions below. If you are a Debian Developer as of the date on this message, please GPG-sign your reply. === CUT HERE === Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 Please mark

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-21 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
> Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Software Foundation, is not a