Re: non-software violates social contract?

2002-08-30 Thread Brian Sniffen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:05:09 -0500, Aaron Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Sorry, but these complexities are the very things you *must* go into >> if you want to delineate software and non-software. > Of course, but I wanted an answer to th

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:19:35AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > VCG is currently in main, but is it distributable at all? The GPL doesn't > > consider this source, IIRC. > > Yeah. I don't think it is distributable, and therefore not DFSG-free. > > While the copyright holder can certainly

Re: apsfilter license

2002-08-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 11:47:58AM +0300, Ville Muikkula wrote: > Maybe the Debian apsfilter package should be moved from main into the > non-free category. Personally I have not yet configured my printer because > I don't like the apsfilter license. IMHO, moving apsfilter into non-free would b

Re: Bug#158529: vcg does not have a usable license

2002-08-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:19:19PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote: > > Should this be done in the debian diff, or a new orig.tar.gz? > > You would have to make a new orig.tar.gz. Debian is not allowed to > distribute the "original" sources at all, since they aren't in the > preferred form for modifi

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread starner
>I think you're a little over-zealous in your interpretation. The original >distributor is clearly the only entity not distributing what for them is >the preferred form for modification, and that's their prerogative. Whilst >we may not like it, I don't think it in any way makes it undistributable;

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 18:44, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:19:35AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > While the copyright holder can certainly distribute obfuscated source > > and no one can tell him not to, the GNU GPL by which the licensees > > (i.e., we, and our users) a

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 07:05:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can a company release a binary - or the disassembled source to one - under > the GPL? Does that make it DFSG-free? By your argument it would. They could certainly release the disassembled source under the GPL. Whether or not i

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 07:57:50PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: > Consider the case where a GPLed program is distributed with .o files > that are linked in at link time. The author could say, under the same > logic and with a straight face, that the .o is "the preferred form for > modification". T

Re: Bad license on VCG?

2002-08-30 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 20:42, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 07:57:50PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: > > > Consider the case where a GPLed program is distributed with .o files > > that are linked in at link time. The author could say, under the same > > logic and with a straight face