Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 15.V.2001 at 17:11 Mo McKinlay wrote: > > > I didn't mean that we must stop to use the trademarks like `Linux'. But > > free programs *must not depend* on that trademark. If I am not allowed > > to distribute an unofficicial kernel and name it `Linux' that is OK. > > But if free progra

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 15.V.2001 at 19:33 Miros/law Baran wrote: > > Are you sure that such modifications (adding one glyph to the bitmap > font) are disallowed? I suppose them to be disallowed. The purpose of trademarks is to guarantee than the product is produced by the trademark holder. For example B&H may want

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
> This string is not trademarked. The string is not trademarked, but it put limits on what the users can do when they rely on software using such strings. If we can't modify helvetica to support the recent 8859-15 encoding, our users won't be able to use our programs (for example Gnumeric) if they

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Miros/law Baran
15.05.2001 pisze Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Because the vendor of these fonts doesn't have permition from the > trademark holders. XFree doesn't have such permition too and thats why > it is not allowed to distribute modified fonts with the same font names. > It must aither distribute

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Mo McKinlay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I didn't mean that we must stop to use the trademarks like `Linux'. But > free programs *must not depend* on that trademark. If I am not allowed > to distribute an unofficicial kernel and name it `Linux' that is OK. > But if free programs s

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 15.V.2001 at 15:08 Miros/law Baran wrote: > 15.05.2001 pisze Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > BTW, Helvetica is registered trademark. I think XFree86 must get > > permition to use that and other font trademarks in its modified > > fonts. That is problem for Debian too. For example th

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
> "Richard" == Richard Kettlewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In my opinion the free software comunity should stop using all >> registered trademarks, such as helvetica, times, courier, lucida, >> etc. > I have this recollection that "Linux" is

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my opinion the free software comunity should stop using all > registered trademarks, such as helvetica, times, courier, lucida, > etc. I have this recollection that "Linux" is a registered trademark in at least one country... -- http://www.greenen

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anton Zinoviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In my opinion the free software comunity should stop using all > registered trademarks, such as helvetica, times, courier, lucida, etc. What would you have us call the kernel used in the overwhelming majority of Debian architectures? -- Henning Makh

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Miros/law Baran
15.05.2001 pisze Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > BTW, Helvetica is registered trademark. I think XFree86 must get > permition to use that and other font trademarks in its modified > fonts. That is problem for Debian too. For example the fonts for ISO > 8859-2 in Debian don't use registered

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-15 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 13.V.2001 at 14:08 Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 04:58:21AM -0400, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: > > I am converting all of my system to ISO-8859-15 and I notice that just > > the "fixed" font has a 8859-15. It would be great to have standard > > fonts such as Times, Helvetica, ..

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-14 Thread Branden Robinson
[This discussion is no longer germane to debian-legal; you should probably direct further inquiries to debian-user, or upstream to XFree86] On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:45:46PM -0400, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: > > "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1) All of the font

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
> "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) All of the fonts in the xfree86 source package are freely licensed. > (N.B., this is not the case with the upstream XFree86 source tarballs.) What are the fonts that have been removed ? > 2) Markus Kuhn has, I believe, extended

Re: standard fonts and euro

2001-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 04:58:21AM -0400, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: > I am converting all of my system to ISO-8859-15 and I notice that just > the "fixed" font has a 8859-15. It would be great to have standard > fonts such as Times, Helvetica, ... be compatible with this encoding. [...] > Now, it se

standard fonts and euro

2001-05-13 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
Hi, I am converting all of my system to ISO-8859-15 and I notice that just the "fixed" font has a 8859-15. It would be great to have standard fonts such as Times, Helvetica, ... be compatible with this encoding. Now, it seems that the fonts coming with XFree86 are copyrighted by Adobe. So what a