On 15.V.2001 at 19:33 Miros/law Baran wrote: > > Are you sure that such modifications (adding one glyph to the bitmap > font) are disallowed?
I suppose them to be disallowed. The purpose of trademarks is to guarantee than the product is produced by the trademark holder. For example B&H may want to add its own version of that glyph to their lucida fonts. They want to make clean that the modified fonts are not produced by them. I choosed B&H as an example because they explicitly disallowed using their font trademarks (lucida) in fonts of other vendors. They stated that in a mail to one font developer. I think we must not use without permition the other trademarks (besides lucida*) too. We can not be sure that their copyright holders will not seek their rights in future. > > trademarks in free programs. The strings like `-adobe-helvetica-*' > > must not be hardcoded in free programs. > > This string is not trademarked. Yes, it is not a trademark. But it forces us to use the original unchanged fonts of Adobe. If we want to use some improved fonts, then we may not use naither adobe, nor helvetica in them (i.e. in fonts). There is no legal problem to use these strings in programs. But it is disallowed to claim that some program is produced by Adobe (if it isn't). I suppose that it is OK to name some software `Helvetica' if it is not font, but for fonts that is forbiden. > I like the BizNet's approach better: if you must change the name, > change the name, but use appropriate alias files. This does not break > any configuration. Yes, but that seams to me like a temporaty hack. I have read that developers in the fonts XFree mailinglist don't want to use aliases. (And I don't like them too...) > > I didn't mean that we must stop to use the trademarks like `Linux'. > > But free programs *must not depend* on that trademark. If I am not > > allowed to distribute an unofficicial kernel and name it `Linux' that > > is OK. But if free programs stop to work because my kernel is not > > named `Linux' that is not OK. > > I think it's a bit too paranoid approach, maybe it is this evening that > I just cannot grok, what you exactly mean. May I forward this > discussion to Adam Twardoch, who is more competent in font issues? Certainly. Anton Zinoviev, [EMAIL PROTECTED]