Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-04-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:03:03 +0200 Patrick Matthäi wrote: > With TrueCrypt 5.x comes the new License version 2.4: OK, let's try and analyze it, then... My usual disclaimers still apply: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. > > > TrueCrypt License Version 2.4 > > > I. Definitions [...] > 4. "You

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-03-30 Thread Patrick Matthäi
With TrueCrypt 5.x comes the new License version 2.4: TrueCrypt License Version 2.4 I. Definitions 1. "This Product" means the work (including, but not limited to, source code, graphics, texts, and accompanying files) made available under and governed by this version of this license ("License"

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-28 Thread MJ Ray
John Halton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 12:05 AM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If we have named Firefux the modified version of Firefox, I doubt the > > > Mozilla foundation would have let that pass. > > > > There's various other reasons for that and it wouldn't have bee

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-28 Thread John Halton
On Jan 28, 2008 12:05 AM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If we have named Firefux the modified version of Firefox, I doubt the > > Mozilla foundation would have let that pass. > > There's various other reasons for that and it wouldn't have been covered > by a prohibition on calling it Firefo

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-27 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le mercredi 16 janvier 2008 =C3=A0 14:55 +, MJ Ray a =C3=A9crit : > > Where? The naming rights asserted above seem much broader than what a > > trademark allows. Trademarks have many limitations. > > If we have named Firefux the modified version

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-22 Thread O Trox
Hi all people, I new on this list and I am also interesting in this problem with the license of TrueCrypt. Maybe it can help to know that in Mandriva distribution, somebody has packed TrueCrypt with another name: "RealCrypt" and it has made it available in their contrib/backports repositories.

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 16 janvier 2008 à 14:55 +, MJ Ray a écrit : > > We have allowed exactly the same conditions by using software with > > trademarked names. > > Where? The naming rights asserted above seem much broader than what a > trademark allows. Trademarks have many limitations. If we have na

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:15:49 +0100 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 14 janvier 2008 à 22:50 +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > > a. The name of Your Product (or of Your modified version of This > > > Product) > > > must not contain the name TrueCrypt (for example, the following names

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-16 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le lundi 14 janvier 2008 =E0 22:50 +0100, Francesco Poli a =E9crit : > > > a. The name of Your Product (or of Your modified version of This Pr= > oduct) > > > must not contain the name TrueCrypt (for example, the following nam= > es are > > >

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 14 janvier 2008 à 22:50 +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > a. The name of Your Product (or of Your modified version of This > > Product) > > must not contain the name TrueCrypt (for example, the following names > > are > > not allowed: TrueCrypt, TrueCrypt+, TrueCrypt Profes

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-15 Thread Joe Smith
"Francesco Poli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] IV. Disclaimer of Warranties and Liabilities; Indemnification [...] 4. You shall indemnify, defend and hold all (co)authors of This Product, their agents and associates, and applicable copyright/trademark owne

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-15 Thread MJ Ray
Ken Arromdee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, the clause doesn't keep you from performing fair use. It can't. Aside: note that there is no global standard for what level of 'fair use' is permitted and so it cannot be relied on. [...] > This should, however, make the program non-free. A p

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:27:57 +0100 Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > The plain text version of the licence may be found at > http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/License.txt > and is pasted below in its entirety. My comments follow. As usual I would like to draw your attention on my disclaimers, that is to

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Måns Rullgård wrote: > >> 1. You may not use, modify, reproduce, derive from, (re)distribute, or > >> sublicense This Product, or portion(s) thereof, except as expressly > >> provided under this License. Any attempt (even if permitted by > >> applicable law) otherwise to use, m

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
On sam, 2008-01-12 at 20:27 +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > The plain text version of the licence may be found at > http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/License.txt > and is pasted below in its entirety. Thanks. Summary: * I think this software is fine for main if we package it the iceweas

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
Iain Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> VI. General Terms >> >> 1. You may not use, modify, reproduce, derive from, (re)distribute, or >> sublicense This Product, or portion(s) thereof, except as expressly >> provided under this License. Any attempt (even if permitted by >> applicable law) othe

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Måns Rullgård
Patrick Matthäi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Måns Rullgård schrieb: >> Patrick Matthäi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I wanted to package maybe truecrypt for Debian. >>> There was an older discussion on l.d.legal for an older version of the >>> TrueCrypt license, where the most

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Iain Nicol
Hi, Wow, that's a lot of license text. There are multiple bits in these licenses that I don't like. > TrueCrypt License Version 2.3 > [...] > II. Terms and Conditions for Use, Reproduction, and Distribution > > 1. You [must] ensure that all the legal notices and > documents (containing, e.g., t

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Måns Rullgård schrieb: Patrick Matthäi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello, I wanted to package maybe truecrypt for Debian. There was an older discussion on l.d.legal for an older version of the TrueCrypt license, where the most developers said, that it is not distributeable. But as I know True

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
Patrick Matthäi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I wanted to package maybe truecrypt for Debian. > There was an older discussion on l.d.legal for an older version of the > TrueCrypt license, where the most developers said, that it is not > distributeable. > > But as I know TrueCrypt has mo

Re: TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:33:22 +0100 Patrick Matthäi wrote: > Hello, Hi! > > I wanted to package maybe truecrypt for Debian. > There was an older discussion on l.d.legal for an older version of the > TrueCrypt license, where the most developers said, that it is not > distributeable. You're pro

TrueCrypt License 2.3

2008-01-12 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Hello, I wanted to package maybe truecrypt for Debian. There was an older discussion on l.d.legal for an older version of the TrueCrypt license, where the most developers said, that it is not distributeable. But as I know TrueCrypt has modified the license, so that more distributions could s