Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:58:00AM -0700, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 18:54 US/Eastern, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: > > > > > I use talkfilters data structures and API in my code. Is > > > that a derivate work?

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > That's interesting. In the Wine community the majority opinion is > that the Win32 API and data structures are not copyrightable. My opinion > is derived mainly from my work with Wine. Since the Win32 API is so vast > (100's of functions and struc

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Daniel Isacc Walker
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 18:54 US/Eastern, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: > > > I use talkfilters data structures and API in my code. Is > > that a derivate work? Everything else I've read indicates that it > > isn't.. > > We had a rather recen

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Domingo, 31 de Agosto de 2003 ás 13:51:13 -0700, Daniel Isacc Walker escribía: [...] > under the GPL . What this means is that my software is automatically GPL'd > even though it has no GPL'd source in it. The GPL doesn't distinguish [...] > incorporated directly into PHP that means that PHP aut

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > License conflict? Like it's not illegal but it's a taboo? No. {sigh} Once again: Read the GPL. Under GPLv2 clause 6, your permission to redistribute a covered work (including derivative works) is conditioned on your imposing no further

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It appears that way .. However, something else comes to mind. > Some PHP applications are closed source. My code would facilitade a close > source PHP script to _use_ talkfilters . But that's not a violated either, > even if I keep it closed? I'm

Re: The GPL and you

2003-09-01 Thread Daniel Isacc Walker
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I use talkfilters data structures and API in my code. Is that a > > derivate work? Everything else I've read indicates that it isn't.. > > Copyright doesn't cover ideas. > > But I believe you're asking

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I use talkfilters data structures and API in my code. Is that a > derivate work? Everything else I've read indicates that it isn't.. Copyright doesn't cover ideas. But I believe you're asking the wrong question. The reason Debian doesn't _redis

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sunday, Aug 31, 2003, at 18:54 US/Eastern, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: I use talkfilters data structures and API in my code. Is that a derivate work? Everything else I've read indicates that it isn't.. We had a rather recent discussion about this, I believe in the context of perl's

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Daniel Isacc Walker
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big > > achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license > > problem . PHP is under the PHP license and the talkfi

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Daniel Isacc Walker
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:51:13PM -0700, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: > > > I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big > > achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license > > problem . PHP is under

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:51:13PM -0700, Daniel Isacc Walker wrote: > I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big > achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license > problem . PHP is under the PHP license and the talkfilters library is > und

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Mark Wielaard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > There is: > > 4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor > may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior written permission > from [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may indicate that your software works in > conjunction w

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 23:45, Rick Moen wrote: > I just read through http://www.php.net/license/3_0.txt , and you appear > to be correct. At least, if there's anything that conflicts with GPLv2, > I can't see it. There is: 4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > So it sounds as though there is no licence incompatibility with PHP 3, > and if PHP 4's licence really is looser, like the A suggests, then > presumably there is no licence incompatibility with PHP 4, either. I just read through http://www.php.n

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Daniel Isacc Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big > achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license > problem . PHP is under the PHP license and the talkfilters library is > under the GPL . http://www.php

Re: The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Daniel Isacc Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big > achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license > problem . PHP is under the PHP license and the talkfilters library is > under the GPL . That would cre

The GPL and you

2003-08-31 Thread Daniel Isacc Walker
(Sorry Rick , I'm lazy..) I made a PHP extension for the talkfilters library. It's not a big achievement, it's maybe 100-200 lines of code .. I've run into a license problem . PHP is under the PHP license and the talkfilters library is under the GPL . What this means is that my software