Christmas came and this thread was dropped... just to tie off:
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray wrote:
> > Passing off is a little different, so I don't want to confuse that
> > with trademarks.
>
> That's not something I know much about; a reference on the difference
> would
On 01/09/07 12:19, MJ Ray wrote:
>> That's not how things work in my experience. You are responsible for
>> everything on the CD. It has nothing to do with how you label it or if
>> you advertise it as included at all.
>
> Maybe you are responsible for it, but how can strings encoded in a
> recor
Jeff Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 12/18/06 09:02, MJ Ray wrote:
> > If the label is not on the outside of the CD or otherwise used in the
> > course of trade by the distributor, how is the trademark infringed by
> > the distributor?
>
> That's not how things work in my experience. You are respons
On 12/18/06 09:02, MJ Ray wrote:
> If the label is not on the outside of the CD or otherwise used in the
> course of trade by the distributor, how is the trademark infringed by
> the distributor?
That's not how things work in my experience. You are responsible for
everything on the CD. It has not
On 12/21/06 08:18, Gervase Markham wrote:
> I admit this is a bit stretched, but I find it hard to understand how we
> come to a position where Debian can label anything it likes with any
> trademarks it likes in its distribution, as long as it doesn't write the
> trademarks on the outside of the
Gervase Markham wrote:
> The Python Software Foundation trademark policy[0] says the following:
>
> "# Use of the word "Python" when redistributing the Python programming
> language as part of a freely distributed application -- Allowed. If the
> standard ver
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gervase Markham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
MJ Ray wrote:
If I purchase Debian CDs and type "python", or I do "man python" and
read all about the interpreter which I can invoke by typing "python"
which interprets the Python programming language, or I install
"pyt
On 12/21/06 08:18, Gervase Markham wrote:
> I admit this is a bit stretched, but I find it hard to understand how we
> come to a position where Debian can label anything it likes with any
> trademarks it likes in its distribution, as long as it doesn't write the
> trademarks on the outside of the
MJ Ray wrote:
Passing off is a little different, so I don't want to confuse that
with trademarks.
That's not something I know much about; a reference on the difference
would be appreciated if you have one.
How is "Python" being used by the distributor to label the shipped
version of CPytho
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could you really not work out what I meant?
No. I had no idea how you think the trademark is being
infringed in your example.
> The CD I have been sold by the Debian distributor uses the Python
> trademarks to label their shipped version of the Pyt
MJ Ray wrote:
If I purchase Debian CDs and type "python", or I do "man python" and
read all about the interpreter which I can invoke by typing "python"
which interprets the Python programming language, or I install
"python-doc" and read some more, isn't that use of the trademark?
What trade i
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray wrote:
> > Well, it applies to all commercial distribution which uses the
> > Python trademark.
>
> Right. And doesn't calling some software "Python" count as "using the
> Python trademark"? (The word, not any logos there might happen to be.)
I
MJ Ray wrote:
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...] This is a complete, standalone,
unqualified sentence, and therefore applies to all commercial
distribution, including people selling Debian CDs.
Well, it applies to all commercial distribution which uses the
Python trademark.
Ri
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] This is a complete, standalone,
> unqualified sentence, and therefore applies to all commercial
> distribution, including people selling Debian CDs.
Well, it applies to all commercial distribution which uses the
Python trademark. None of the
"Art
MJ Ray wrote:
> Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As I understand it, Debian uses the name Python to refer to its Python
>> implementation and the name `python' for the executable. Does this mean
>> that all commercial distributors of Debian need to get permission from
>> the PSF, or
Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I understand it, Debian uses the name Python to refer to its Python
> implementation and the name `python' for the executable. Does this mean
> that all commercial distributors of Debian need to get permission from
> the PSF, or alter their copy of
The Python Software Foundation trademark policy[0] says the following:
"# Use of the word "Python" when redistributing the Python programming
language as part of a freely distributed application -- Allowed. If the
standard version of the Python programming language is modified,
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