Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Ben Finney
Felyza Wishbringer writes: > Would this be better wording? I don't have a lot of interest in constructing new license texts, since I much prefer that all software distributors avoid unnecessary license proliferation. Please, instead of constructing new licenses, use an existing widely-used well

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 07:02:53PM -0400, Felyza Wishbringer a écrit : > Would this be better wording? > > "2. Nobody is liable for what .. you do with it" Dear Felyza, I think that unfortunately, there is no possiblity to have a license that is short and fun / satyrical / provocative / …, and a

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Felyza Wishbringer
Would this be better wording? "2. Nobody is liable for what .. you do with it" > The WTFPL goes beyond disclaimer to place liability on the licensee. > That's an unusual step, and I'm not convinced that it preserves the > recipient's freedom. -- -Felyza -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-leg

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Ben Finney
Felyza Wishbringer writes: > My reading and understanding is that they are basically the same. The significant difference is that the GPL does not place liability anywhere; it only disclaims liability for the licensor. The same goes for all other widely-used free software licenses. The WTFPL go

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Ricardo Mones
Hi Sam, On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:59:23 +0200 Sam Hocevar wrote: > > Regardless of any consideration about the license spirit, I read the > > copyright notice (Copyright (C) 2004 Sam Hocevar ) as > > applying to the license text, not to the licensed work. > > > > See for instance > > http://pac

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:17:13 -0400 Felyza Wishbringer wrote: > My reading and understanding is that they are basically the same. I am not convinced... > > From the GPLv2, it states that the copyright holder (author) and > anyone who modifies or redistributes the code cannot be held liable to >

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Felyza Wishbringer
My reading and understanding is that they are basically the same. >From the GPLv2, it states that the copyright holder (author) and anyone who modifies or redistributes the code cannot be held liable to you for damages. >From the proposed WTFPLv3, it states You are solely liable for 'what you do

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:27:11 -0400 Felyza Wishbringer wrote: [...] > My proposed WTFPLv3 (2011) > http://gamingtools.com/WTFPLv3.txt > Which changed name of the license and copyright. and add 2 > terms&conditions statements > Updated from earlier today... a change to T&C 1, which now states: You >

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Felyza Wishbringer
Since this has sparked some interesting debate over the wording, for reference: WTFPLv1.0 (2000) http://repo.or.cz/w/wmaker-crm.git/blob/refs/heads/master:/COPYING.WTFPL WTFPLv1.1 (2010?) https://www.ohloh.net/licenses/wtfpl_1_1 http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/threadmill.git/plain/COPYING.WTFPL

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Added Sam, and I hope he doesn't mind, as I think he's the one which can > > give the best answer to this. > > That's OK with me. > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:29:20 +0200 > > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > > > > DO WHATEVER THE DUCK YOU

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:41:15 +0200 Ricardo Mones wrote: > > Hi, Hi Ricardo! (Hi Sam!) > > Added Sam, and I hope he doesn't mind, as I think he's the one which can > give the best answer to this. That's OK with me. > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:29:20 +0200 > Francesco Poli wrote: > > >

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Ricardo Mones
Hi, Added Sam, and I hope he doesn't mind, as I think he's the one which can give the best answer to this. On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:29:20 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: > > DO WHATEVER THE DUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE > > Version 3, September 2011 > >

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Simon Chopin
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 01:16:34PM -0400, Felyza Wishbringer wrote: > I am planning on submissions to a project that is looking to finish up > their Debian legality. I found a license that pretty much works, but I > don't like that it has no warranty disclaimer. So, I modified it per > the license

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Simon Chopin
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 09:45:58PM +0200, Simon Chopin wrote: [...] > Actually, if you read Sam Hocevar's FAQ webpage about the WTFPL[1], this > issue is adressed by adding a separate disclaimer. It seems pretty hard > to miss. I must add that most of the time I see this licence used for > program

Re: License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:34 -0400 Felyza Wishbringer wrote: [...] > I found a license that pretty much works, but I > don't like that it has no warranty disclaimer. So, I modified it per > the license allowance, but I want an official 'yes its okay'. [...] > First, per the code of conduct, I am m

License check for a new(ly modified) license..

2011-09-26 Thread Felyza Wishbringer
I am planning on submissions to a project that is looking to finish up their Debian legality. I found a license that pretty much works, but I don't like that it has no warranty disclaimer. So, I modified it per the license allowance, but I want an official 'yes its okay'. It's very short. First,