Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
"Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 22 May 2007 08:09:33 Ben Finney wrote: > > The consensus (not unanimous, but consensus nonetheless) of > > debian-legal is that the DFSG, regardless of which of its clauses are > > exercised, is non-free for any software, including docu

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-22 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 08:09:33 Ben Finney wrote: > The consensus (not unanimous, but consensus nonetheless) of > debian-legal is that the DFSG, regardless of which of its clauses are > exercised, is non-free for any software, including documentation. (I assume you meant "GFDL" here instead of "DF

Re: CC Sampling Plus 1.0

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
Terry, please follow http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct>. In particular, don't send a copy of messages to my email address; I have not asked you to do so. Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > >> [CC Sampling Plus 1.0 license clause re. derivative works]

Re: CC Sampling Plus 1.0

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
"Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would you think the license CC Sampling Plus 1.0 from Creative > Commons would be DFSG-Free? > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/sampling+/1.0/ > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/sampling+/1.0/legalcode When discussing a license text it's useful

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > [the (C) sequence is] possibly not a valid copyright > > indicator. The © symbol is unambiguous under the law, and thus > > preferred. > > "unambiguous under the law", but technical ambiguous. What character > encoding shou

Re: Scummvm games: software or data? [from gNewSense]

2007-05-22 Thread Joey Hess
MJ Ray wrote: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2007-05/msg00072.html My limited understanding is that ScummVM games are software whose preferred form of modification is the game files as distributed. Since I have never actually modified a ScummVM game, I am unsure as to the tool

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, May 22, 2007, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >It's possibly not a valid copyright indicator. The © symbol is > >unambiguous under the law, and thus preferred. > > "unambiguous under the law", but technical ambiguous. What character > encoding should be used? > > IMHO "(c)" is the characte

Re: CC Sampling Plus 1.0

2007-05-22 Thread Terry Hancock
Ben Finney wrote: >> 1.the Derivative Work(s) constitute a good-faith partial or >>recombined usage employing "sampling," "collage," "mash-up," or >>other comparable artistic technique, whether now known or hereafter >>devised, that is highly transformative of the original, as >>appropriate to the

Please vet this modified CC license for uploading FoF music to non-free (was: Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto?)

2007-05-22 Thread Jason Spiro
On 5/15/07, Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... How about: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/legalcode with 4. d. added saying: You may not publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work except as part of the game and you may not

Re: (C) vs ??

2007-05-22 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > IMHO "(c)" is the character representation of the copyright symbol, > and when you print it, you should substitute with the correct symbol, > as the "ff", "ffl", "fl", .. ligatures. No. Either use the symbol and indicate which character set encoding you are using (e.g

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Ben Finney wrote: Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have heard that in copyright declarations like: Copyright (C) 2007, Company X, Country Y. All rights reserved. --- it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol © which is the strict copyright symbol. Is this so? If

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have heard that in copyright declarations like: > Copyright (C) 2007, Company X, Country Y. All rights reserved. > --- > > it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol © which is the > strict copyright symbol. Is this so? If yes, why?

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Finney
Shriramana Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I remember reading that the GFDL is not DFSG-free (due to some clauses > regarding invariant sections or something) The Debian project is in the strange situation that a license which has many freeness issues[0] has been voted explicitly free withou

Re: (C) vs ?

2007-05-22 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Shriramana Sharma wrote: > it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol ? which is the strict > copyright symbol. Is this so? If yes, why? Strictly speaking it is incorrect. But apart from pedantry there is no reason to speak so strictly. http://www.iusmentis.com/copyright/notice/ Arnoud

Re: (C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:14:31PM +0530, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol © which is the strict > copyright symbol. Is this so? If yes, why? IANAL etc. The formal copyright notice is required in some (very few) countries for a foreign work to get copy

Re: help with crafting proper license header for a dual-licensing project

2007-05-22 Thread Shriramana Sharma
I have applied corrections based on your comments and herewith enclose the new draft of the header for the source files. If it is approved by this list as no faults are found, I will go ahead and use it. Please if there are any faults that must be corrected, tell me. If I do not receive any such

(C) vs ©

2007-05-22 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Hello. I have heard that in copyright declarations like: --- Copyright (C) 2007, Company X, Country Y. All rights reserved. --- it is incorrect to use (C) in place of the symbol © which is the strict copyright symbol. Is this so? If yes, why? Further, whether (C) or ©, isn't

Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-05-22 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Hello list. I remember reading that the GFDL is not DFSG-free (due to some clauses regarding invariant sections or something) so I would like to know what is a DFSG-free license for documentation, since a project I am working on wants to license its documentation in a DFSG-free way. Thanks.

Scummvm games: software or data? [from gNewSense]

2007-05-22 Thread MJ Ray
Mark H. Weaver explains why scummvm games should be in non-free in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2007-05/msg00072.html and Justin Baugh replied pointing to http://packages.debian.org/stable/games/beneath-a-steel-sky The troublesome clause in the copyright licence is probably "3

discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
[Cc:ing -legal, but please try to follow-up on only one list] I am having a chat tonight with people from the FSF. Despite the inevitable disagreements between Debian and the FSF, I am willing to cooperate in a constructive manner on as many topic as possible. Here are the topics we'll be di