Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:17:48 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: [...] > Now I wonder: I've got some texts which I wrote in Microsoft Word and > then converted to PDF. While I can create a more-or-less useful HTML > version, I prefer to work on them in the proprietary Word format. > > Suppose Debian wo

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Per Eric Rosén
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Terry Hancock wrote: > I think you have to recognize some kind of pragmatic limit to these > kinds of restrictions. The HTML certainly can be modified, and a lot > more people know HTML than some ad hoc XML format. It may well be the > case that the HTML would be the preferred

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Terry Hancock wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > I don't think so. Machine-generated HTML is not source, at least not > > until it becomes the form that is actually preferred for making > > modifications to the work... > > I think you have to recognize some kind of pragmatic limit to these > kinds

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Terry Hancock
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:12:05 -0600 Terry Hancock wrote: >> Yes, it seems the question here is *whose* "preferred form for >> modifications"? >> >> The GPL appears to assume there is a general consensus on this, and >> there may not be. > > IMO, whenever there's any doubt abo

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-04 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Friday 03 November 2006 14:06, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Sean Kellogg wrote: > NB: Licence is also an appropriate spelling. Informative, thank you. I had presumed there was a copy & paste error. > > Avoiding the click wrap means you have not accepted ALL the terms of > > the

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-04 Thread Jeff Carr
On 11/04/06 06:47, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:43 -0800 Don Armstrong wrote: > >> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > [...] >>> 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under >>> the plain GPL in terms of what I am allowed to do? > [...]

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-04 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Sean Kellogg wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 01:24, Don Armstrong wrote: > Setting up wrapper terms and/or clickwraps that cannot be removed > contravenes §6: -- IF YOU DO NOT ACC

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:12:05 -0600 Terry Hancock wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > > That's what I would think. But consider this example. I write texts > > in a homebrewed XML format, which makes little sense for anyone but > > me. Obviously I prefer to use that format. I have an XSLT > > trans

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:27:43 -0800 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 03 Nov 2006, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: [...] > > 1) Does this license allow me to treat the package as licensed under > > the plain GPL in terms of what I am allowed to do? [...] > As to whether we can do #1, that's something > t