Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Steve M. Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have approached the GMP developers both on the GMP list and > privately. It turns out that the copyright is assigned to FSF so they > have no authority (or so they claim) to change the license. I was > advised to contact FSF about it. Please ask them what

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 3/26/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On 3/25/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The copying to the DRM-controlled media seems expressly > > > > prohibited. > > > > > > Only if these copies are are mad

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Could you please phrase what you would consider an accurate (non > misleading) credit? "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian kernel team and others" > Start from a troublesome license and patch it hard so that it is > `forced' to meet the DFSG? I don't

Re: better licence for fosdem, debconf, .., videos...

2006-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:02:53 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On the other hand, "kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386.deb by the Debian > > kernel team, based on the Linux kernel by Linus Torvalds and others" > > seems to be accurate credit, doesn't it? > > It's an arguably accur

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:57:35 +0200 Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 10:05:52AM -0800, Walter Landry > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > It is, in fact, not distributable as an executable by Debian. It > > requires keeping the source around for every binary for at least six > > mont

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Jaakko Kangasharju
"Steve M. Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > For example, GMP has Front-Cover Text >> >> > A GNU Manual >> >> > and Back-Cover Text >> >> > You have freedom to copy and modify this GNU Manual, like GNU software >> >> > and no invariant sections. Must I really throw this documen

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Raul Miller wrote: > If we're going to go into the exact quote game: > >You may not use technical measures to obstruct or control the >reading or further copying of the copies you make or distribute. ^^ [...] >

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 01:08:16AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:09:02PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > This implies that a document with no invariant sections, but with > > one-sentence front- and back-cover sections does not meet the DFSG? > > Is that Debian's pos

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Domingo, 26 de Marzo de 2006 ás 20:57:35 +0200, Mike Hommey escribía: > The GPL does require something similar. Not exactly. The GPL requires you to provide source alongside binary; when you stop offering the binary, you may stop offering the source. However, under the MPL, you must go on offe

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 10:05:52AM -0800, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? > > > Looking at

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Walter Landry
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi > > > > Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? > > Looking at google I see a lot of "Summary - non-free" and "Not really > > non-free" mails. > > It is indeed

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Walter Landry
"Raul Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/21/06, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Second off, you've not convinced me that the GFDL never allows > > > the use of word format (I'll grant that such allowance would come > > > with caveats about as strong as those necessary for your

Re: MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 04:21:31PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? > Looking at google I see a lot of "Summary - non-free" and "Not really > non-free" mails. It is indeed non-free. > So, I have some packages in NEW that are MP

MPL license

2006-03-26 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi Whats debian-legals position about the MPL? Looking at google I see a lot of "Summary - non-free" and "Not really non-free" mails. So, I have some packages in NEW that are MPL only licensed. Whats the current way to go? Reject, accept? (Hopefully not a "check every package if it has ", l

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread Raul Miller
On 3/26/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 3/25/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > It's not clear to me that the GFDL prohibits DRM where > > > > a parallel distribution mechanism is guaranteed to be availa

Re: Results for Debian's Position on the GFDL

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 3/25/06, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > It's not clear to me that the GFDL prohibits DRM where > > > a parallel distribution mechanism is guaranteed to be available. > > > > The copying to the DRM-controlled media see

Re: ttf-dejavu and Bitstream's license (bug#353462)

2006-03-26 Thread MJ Ray
> From: Christian Hammers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Bug#353462: ttf-dejavu: license prohibits advertising with > Bitstream name - description uses them > To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So... > - is this "advertising" at all I think that's unclear. I don't think so, bu

Re: GFDL'ed documents with Front Cover text

2006-03-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:09:02PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Frank said: > > assume a document licensed under GFDL, with no invariant sections (and > > ...) has a front cover text (like "A GNU Manual") and a back cover text > [...] > > What should the developers do in order to make it DF