Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread MJ Ray
Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > "You may not have any cookies right now". > > It's a reflexive negation rewording of "May I " -> "You may not ". [snip] Well, that's fine, but if I don't need your permission in order to have cookies, it's sort of irrelevant. Also, it doesn't actuall

Re: Bug#296369: ITP: spin -- Powerfull model checking and software verification tool

2005-02-21 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 02:31:03AM +0100, Eike Dehling wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Eike Dehling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: spin > Version : 4.2.4 > Upstream Author : Bell-Labs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.spinroot.com

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 10:42:29AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Lewis Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I think the obvious intended meaning is another assertion of > representation norms. The other conditions of this licence use > "must" not "may". To what wording convention do you refer?

Re: Are Debian logos still non-free?

2005-02-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 22:21:30 + Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > * Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-21 22:33]: > > Any plans for the trademark side of the issue? > > I asked Matthew Garrett to work on an appropriate license. He sent a > mail to spi-trademark in Aug

Re: Are Debian logos still non-free?

2005-02-21 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-21 22:33]: > Any plans for the trademark side of the issue? I asked Matthew Garrett to work on an appropriate license. He sent a mail to spi-trademark in August (and a follow-up in September) but it never went anywhere. I'll ask him to send another r

Re: Bug#295914: tvtime: seems to include undistributable code

2005-02-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:31:54 -0600 Billy Biggs wrote: > > This seems to be not only non-free, but even undistributable! :-( > > The code that this comment refers to was not being used and has been > removed from newer versions of tvtime. Since the code is long gone, I > have removed the comme

Re: Are Debian logos still non-free?

2005-02-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:56:55 + Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > There has been some progress. Gregory Pomerantz, SPI's legal council, > has written a copyright assignment agreement and the arist of the logo > has agreed to sign it and thereby hand ownership over to SPI. Once

Re: Are Debian logos still non-free?

2005-02-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:12:37 + Andrew Suffield wrote: > Formally stated, it's approximately "trademarks cannot make a work > strictly non-free, but you may have to replace all instances of the > trademark with something else". Depending on circumstances, this may > be an implicit change-the-na

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread Martin Schulze
MJ Ray wrote: > As a first attempt to fix, if it's thought to be a problem, can > you ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] to give blanket permission for php packaging > to be called "PHP" or "PHP for distribution-or-package-system"? Tried that, received: 996 N ! Feb 21 PHP Automoderator 117 PHP posting confi

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread Martin Schulze
MJ Ray wrote: > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without > modification, is permitted provided that the following conditions > are met: > [...] > 4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor > may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior wr

Re: Are Debian logos still non-free?

2005-02-21 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-20 18:17]: > I'm wondering whether there has been any progress on the Debian Open > Use Logo issue... There has been some progress. Gregory Pomerantz, SPI's legal council, has written a copyright assignment agreement and the arist of the logo has agre

Re: PHP non-free or wrongly named?

2005-02-21 Thread MJ Ray
Lewis Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Having just reread your post again, I think I realise what you are > saying. Because they wrote the 'condition' as "Products derived from > this software may not be called "PHP", nor may "PHP" appear in their > name, without prior written permiss